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post #16 of (permalink) Old 11-09-2009, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkMckee View Post
Hello, First i would like to tell you my name is Mark, right now i am sitting at 295 LBS 6'8 Height - Looking to eventualy be Pro heavyweight within ONE year or around there i have a few qustions maybe a few of you can take the time and answer
Gut reaction: Oh dear. This is going to be a f*cking train wreck.

1. Starting with 0 experiance other then street fight, out of shape, but very highly motivated with positive attitude, should i look for a partner to train with, or start alone?
You don't need a training partner. you need four or five. And they should be experienced, with varied backgrounds.

You need a camp.

Anyone who thinks that they can learn on their own or with a single training partner is kidding themselves. Realistically, you need a camp.

A program like Xtreme Couture, with three legendary heavyweight martial artists (Couture, Mir and Drysdale) makes for a great training environment.

So, I guess the simple answer is you need training partners (plural) and guys who know the ins and outs of the sport to coach you.

2. I have been told by 2 former UFC fighters, that Dana is ALWAYS open to new heavyweight especialy this yeat, information on this would be great how likly it is.
With no professional or amateur fights, your chances of making the UFC are exactly 0%.

Dana is looking for new heavyweights, but this is a guy who hesitates on hiring professional athletes (i.e. Brock Lesnar and Satoshi Ishii) before they make a professional debut.

The heavyweight division is growing, but it takes two or three years competing (not training) at the professional level before the UFC will even treat you like a prospect and, even then, you'd better be f*cking phenomenal.

Cain Velasquez was picked up by the UFC freakishly early in his career, but there was still almost a two year distance between when he started competing and when he debuted. And this is an extraordinary case, which you should not count on being.

3. Should i start off with classes? Or pay the money for PERSONAL PRIVATE seasons?

Training demands working with a group. Anyone who thinks that they are progressing well with just private lessons is kidding themselves.

The training and sparring experience that comes from working with multiple training partners is invaluable. The conditioning and technical ability that develops from being forced to apply techniques to different body types is irreplaceable, especially for heavyweights, where the body types are most varied.

4. Should i post back-yard fights, organized basement fights and other such on youtube and other website to make a new for myself?
Not unless you want to be ruthlessly mocked and see the end of your career within three years.

5. Anyone recomend MMA Gyms to start off with? or even stick to? I'm not lookin to mess around time to get serious!
Yeah. If you're really serious, move your life somewhere close to a major camp and train 5-6 days a week at least three hours a day (five or six is better).

This is standard for MMA fighters, and you have to keep in mind that you're behind your potential contemporaries like, say, Todd Duffee or Pat Barry. These are guys who have been full time athletes essentially their entire lives.

It's also important to know that just because you want something doesn't mean it's going to materialize as soon as you start working hard. No sane MMA coach will tell you to take even an amateur fight until you've been training at least six months. That's not realistic.

Additionally, don't expect to appear in a moderately sized professional show for at least two or three years. The notable shows don't sign competitors without a reputation, so since you're just a guy with street-fight experience, the chance that they're going to pick you up is very slim.

This is just a reality check, bro, and I'm sorry to be the guy that brings it.

I talk at least once a month to someone who thinks that they are going to work really hard and earn a blackbelt in judo or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in three years, that they're like B.J. Penn (who, by the way, had an extensive background in other systems and a phenomenal camp and family environment enabling him). I've been training most of my life in BJJ and I train with people who have spent most of their lives training in judo. Some of them are blackbelts. They didn't get there because they decided to "get serious." They did it by making Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or judo a routine. MMA is the same.

If you see people interview Rampage or B.J., or even fighters generally credited with having more of a work ethic, like Georges St. Pierre or Diego Sanchez, you'll hear this (and I know you will, because I've heard it personally from two of the guys I just mentioned):

Training sucks. Getting up and going to the gym every day is hard, it's grueling and it wears on your patience.

But I suck it up and do it. I push through the monotony of training every day as much as I push through the pain of each workout.


Because I have to. Because I need to be that much more dedicated than the next guy I'm going to fight. And the guy after that. And the guy after that.

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