MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos - View Single Post - IronMan's Log
Thread: IronMan's Log
View Single Post
post #289 of (permalink) Old 07-15-2010, 12:48 PM Thread Starter
True Grappler
IronMan's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New York City, New York
Posts: 6,222
Originally Posted by Freelancer View Post
The Peruvian necktie is both a choke and a neck crank right?
I think Ari Bolden's explanation is pretty good.

He doesn't get into this, but it's basically impossible to crank the neck, because the arm is in the choke. Any attempt to crank the neck isn't going to be that effective, because you're also going through the shoulder, which is much thicker than you'd need it to be in order to crank effectively. Usually neck cranks demand isolating the neck (you can see this in the case opener and versions of the twister that attack the neck).

It's really a choke. It just feels like you're cranking because there's so much space. between your arms and your chest (as opposed to, say, a guillotine or an anaconda, where you're using your chest as a part of closing off the choke). But it's really a head-and-arm choke that should get the tap.

Sig by Toxic

Barnett - Toquinho -Werdum - "Nurmie"
Z. Gurgel - Morango - Rocha - Tiequan
IronMan is offline  
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome