Thanks for the infor. I went back yesterday and watched pride 1-5(not reflective of pride today) and then Championship Chaos and two others. I can see how with guys like Rampage Jackson and others that have great ability but lacked experience and some training. Can't imagine how good they may have become over the years but look forward to getting some pride fighting dvds or pay per view. I sure miss the days when good fights were on regular tv such as Ali back in the day.