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Old 01-11-2011, 08:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kin View Post
No, this is not me asking for instructions on how to shoot a double. This is me asking how YOU, yourself, shoot doubles and why you do it that way.

The setup

Do you shoot off of a jab? An overhand? An inside leg kick? Do you tie up first?

The Shot

Do you drop a knee? Do you stay on your feet? Do you duck your head, close your eyes, and charge forward with your arms outstretched?

The Finish

Do you turn the corner and end up in side control? Do you drive through into guard? Do you pop up and end up standing over his open guard? Do you trip a leg and end up in half guard? If you drop a knee on your shot, do you finish from kneeling or do you come back to your feet for the finish?

Do you use a different setup/shot/finish for MMA than for grappling or the same thing either way? And most importantly, WHY do you do it that way? "I was taught that way" is fine, but if you notice any advantages or disadvantages of that method, let's discuss them.

I'm so tired of "how do I do this/what style should i take" threads. This is the technique discussion subforum, so let's actually have some real discussion about technique!

EDIT: Yes, obviously circumstance dictates your technique and in competition, I've done almost every variation I've listed and I'm sure there are others I haven't touched upon. I'm asking what your go-to is.
As for the last part (Circumstance dictates technique), I'm just going to go with my "Bread and Butter Double Leg".

The set-up:
Jabs, possibly an overhand feint or a teep. Something to get them either thinking high or moving off balance.

The Shot:
In on one knee, head belly button level, face looking to the side with my cheek to the inside of their hip (not on the side of their body, to the left or right of their center). If I'm shooting to my left (usually), wrap my right arm behind his knee, clinch with my other hand about thigh level.

The Finish:
Pull left with my arms, push right with my head while moving semi circular to my left and driving forward, both knees coming off the ground.(I believe that would be called "turning the corner" but I'm unsure, my wrestling is balls) Hopefully end up in side control or at the very least half guard. Sometime I'll do sort of a hybrid Outside trip/double leg, too. If I get deep enough inside and knee is planted close to him, I'll use a trip to assist pulling him off balance with my arms.

Pros/Cons:
+ Takes less energy than a "Driving" double leg as it's more based off of balance/counter balance.

+ Not as succeptible to being "Stuffed" and ending up in turtle position or with a guy on your back and your face on the floor because your knee is planted and your other foot remains closer to your center of gravity, it's much easier to just stand back up after he sprawls.

+ Can't get kneed once you're knee is down

+ Better ending position

- Considerably more complicated that the "Driving Double" due to the different stages or the takedown.

- You HAVE to be quick as the shot is lower that normal, it's easier to dodge or counter with a knee before your knee hits the floor.

- Not as much forward momentum as driving doubles.

- Must be timed and executed well in order to pull it off cleanly. If you miss you can't just keep going with it like a power/driving double, you have to back out and try again.

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