Think you need to give Kampmann a bit more credit Bobby, Kampmann is a stud. Has some of the best striking at 170 (don't let the Paul Daley fight fool you, Daley's just that good) and is an excellent grappler. He has very good takedown defence, and excellent Jiu Jitsu. He also trains at Xtreme Couture with some seriously good guys. I'd like to see Kampmann vs Stun Gun, as I was the one that suggested it, but I see Kampmann tooling Dong in all facets of the game personally.