Also, the traps are a back muscle... are you retarded?
Can't believe I made u angry from 2007...
If u read again it wasn't me who said the traps were a back muscle it was the OP, I believe I just said that u train traps after shoulders.
I don't train traps I just do 210kg deadlifts. I can flip a 350kg tire too. Now go ahead and get more angry.