Ok, well that makes more sense. Some of us are old enough to remember the original Quake
But still, Q3 is ancient too (I think I first played the demo in like... 1998 maybe?), and is a twitch FPS that makes it difficult to compare to the more complicated FPS with classes and unlocks and loadouts. Never have played Quake Live, but I assume it's not a lot different. Yeah, the purity of it makes it more appealing for competitive play, but it doesnt make it a better game imo. Just different.