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post #17 of (permalink) Old 11-10-2012, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SideWays222 View Post
Im not arguing what you are saying.

But its hard to deny that Blackzillian seems to recently be a decent camp and getting better.

Alistair Overeem
Cosmo Alexandre
Eddie Alvarez
Gesias Cavalcante
Siyar Bahadurzada
Thiago Silva
Vitor Belfort
Braulio Estima
Rashad Evans
Melvin Guillard
Guto Inocente
Michael Johnson
Anthony Johnson
Fabio Mello
Matt Mitrione
Claude Patrick
Jorge Santiago
Tyrone Spong
Miguel Torres
Danillo Villefort
Yuri Villefort

Anthony Johnson is doing better then ever. Gesias Cavalcante just won his fight. Mitrione does not have a bad career for someone being that inexperienced and getting in the UFC. Tyrone Spong must be a great sparring partner.

Then you have the obvious people like Overeem,Rashad,Vitor. I would like to add Torres to that list but his career has been quit the disappointment as of late.

So yeah i agree that the camp isnt doing amazing or anything compared to some. But it has potential and there is guys that could benefit quiet a bit by being in that camp.
Oh I'm not arguing the talent level or potential in that camp, you're spot on about that. But those guys have built their reputations and careers long before coming to blackzilians.

However other than possibly Rashad, since coming to that camp over 90% of those guys have been on the losing end or suspended. If anything, that makes the camp itself and it's training, discipline or gameplanning look that much worse. To take that level of talent and make them all suck, the camp must either be colossally bad and disorganized, or incredibly unlucky.

I mean just out of your list, Eddie Alvarez lost his title right after he moved to BZ, Guillard is on a 1-3 losing streak since BZ, Belfort just got his ass kicked by Jones right after he joined, Overeem got busted and suspended right after he joined, Anthony Johnson got cut from the UFC after he joined, JZ is a mediocre 2-2, Santiago just got 0-2ed out of the UFC right after he joined, Danillo Villefort lost his one and only fight since joining, Torres is 1-2 since joining, Mitrione just got his first career loss and is 1-1 since joining, Siyar has been injured and hasn't had a fight since joining, and so on.

If I was the superstitious type, I'd say that's one jinxed camp. But I'm not really, so I'm inclined to think their methods must suck.
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