Originally Posted by TheLyotoLegion
Because he hasn't fought any of them recently, he has fought wrestlers before but he lost to them, it's the same thing with Nate, they try and fight off their back but fighting off your back won't win you fights in MMA unless you can finish.
Nate's BJJ isn't really the same as Nick's. And that aside, what makes you think that Nate can't finish? Since improving his boxing, thus becoming a completley different fighter, pre-Bendo he had been pretty much taken down twice. One of which he finished with a triangle or an armbar, both were involved, and the other he finished with a nasty guillotine. Ben Henderson is a completley different fighter, and I think it was Cerrone that said he's practically impossible to sub. GSP might well fight the same, but theres a reason these guys are the champions. If Condit had went for the takedown on Nick and had that strategy throughout, I think Nick would have finished him. Same goes for anyone that isn't on the same super submission def level that Ben Henderson for example is. If you make ANY mistakes, Nick will capitalize. He had trouble with them in the past, but that's a long long time ago. Since then, he was a great fighter in Pride, the best Strikeforce fighter of all time. The Nick that was having trouble with wrestlers wouldn't have had the same achievements as Nick now does if he hadn't improved dramatically.
I guess time will tell. I hope if Nick loses he sticks around the division because there are a lot like you whom he has a lot to prove to. He will always be hated, and he really does warrent a lot of it, but I feel the downplay of his skills is something he could easily justify and that would give the likes of you only his attitude to comment on and not question marks over his abilities you know what I mean?