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UFC 71: Chris Leben vs. Kalib Starnes

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#1 ·
Bet on Leben vs Starnes.
 
#8 ·
all i can say is WAR CRIPPLER

if leben wins this one the ufc needs too lay off with having him fight these ground specialists.


mike swick was right there for the longest time for swick vs. leben 2 but nooo.....now swick is going down to ww.
 
#10 ·
crippler's only been crippled once, against silva, and silva also crippled franklin.

he did way more damage in his fight with doerkson and got robbed in my opinion and he was easily beating mcdonald until he got caught.props to mcdonald with that sweet modified guilltine choke.

3 losses, one questionable decision, one sub and one knockout to the current champ.

im sick of people calling leben a can and a bum

im pretty sure leben can take starnes.
 
#17 ·
kalib is capable of submitting leben, but the question is will he be able to considering leben is an animal with GREAT yes great td defence, an under-rated ground game, a truck load of heart,great chin and ko power in both hands that he knows how to use.


chris leben isnt a joke on the ground, he's trained with top team quest fighters, at amc pankration, the guys has been around and he's knows allot, he's a very knowledgable fighter, he has about 3 times more experience than kalib.

i think starnes will have a very hard time getting the fight to the ground, and even if he does,leben has faired fine on the ground against bjj blackbelts.


allin all i think i agree with punishment 101 here and that leben has a better chance to kncok starnes out that stanres does to submit him and i think he willt ake it by tko, ko or unanimous decision.

given kalibs tendendy too lose confidence if he is losing i think leben will close in for a 3rd round or possibly second round knockout or decision.

kalib experiencing his first real loss to okami(since his loss to groves was technicly a injury)and now training with the great big nogmay have changed and we may see amore impressive fighter but i will judge kalib for what i ahve seen and not from what i havent.

this fight, either man could end it.
 
#21 ·
mcdonald did that a couple times and he didnt get anything but his leg caught, a right hands to the face a pummeled to the ground

leben was dominating every aspect of the fight on the ground and on the feet until he got caught in that choke.


WAR CRIPPLER,kalinbs a good fighter but he's probly gonna lose
 
#24 ·
leben isnt over-rated

leben is well rounded, if you watch the fight with mcdonald you will see he even dominated the grappling until mcdonald slipped in some strange modified guillotine at the end of the second round.

leben has many wins by submission aswell as knockout.

he's no bum on the ground
 
#25 ·
Jason McDonald and Anderson Silva were his two only "good opponents" that he faught. In both those fights he got completely owned in the first round. Beating Edwin Dewees and Patrick Cote don't really impress me. Or beating any of his castmates that he trained with for 2 months straight, that doesn't impress me either.
 
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