Weidman actually is taller than the heavyweight champion and he is taller than some of Jones recent opponents. If Weidman packed on muscles could he beat Jon Jones ?
IMO I think he would lose vs Jones since his style does not match up very well
- He does have ok footwork but not good enough to be able to constantly close in on Jones huge range
- Since Jones is an outstanding wrestler himself and will at fight night have a few pounds weight advantage it would be hard for Weidman to take Jones down. They could nullify each others wrestling. This leads to a "rerun" of Jones vs Rashad Evans (= Jones by UD)
I agree. Chris is a better grappler. Better at both wrestling and submissions. Big guy, given a little time he would come in pretty big at LHW and would likely be the stronger fighter. Tough as nails, hits with power. I think Chris could be the worst matchup out there for Jones.
close but Jones. I think Jones is the best P4P I mean he has never lost a fight and he seems like he can win anyway he wants to. I mean he even beat Chael at his own game. I dont know of a man alive that could beat him.
Let's not go crazy here... just because Weidman got the belt doesn't mean he's suddenly the Pound 4 Pound King of UFC. Let's atleast see him defend the belt before people go nuts about him being the greatest ever.
...Yeah- hard to disagree with that post. Weidman has to defend that belt a few times before he's a legit P4P candidate. Whoever said Weidman would beat Jones must hate Jon cause there's no way Chris would get past 3 rounds with JBJ. Jones doesn't clown in the cage he just dominates everyone with his well-rounded, sick skills. JBJ would toss Weidman around like a rag doll and finish him brutally like he did to Sonnen...
Bones would destroy him both standing and on the ground. People keep underestimating this guys wrestling. How many guys does he need to manhandle before people start giving him respect. No one has taken him down. Let me repeat that; no one has taken him down.
Here is a list of guys with wrestling backgrounds he made look like jokes in the wrestling department.
Matyushenko
Bader
Hammil
Vera
Sonnen
Rampage
Rashad
None of them could do jack squat to him with wrestling or stop his takedowns.
The guy is a monster he competed for one year and won the JUCO national championship and would have been a contender for a Div I national championship every year if he had stuck with it.
I'm not a Jones hater but not a fan, and I think he would smoke Weidman. But down the road if they are still champs in 2 or 3 years, it isn't a fight I wouldn't mind seeing.
WTF are some of you guys talking about? A guy with decent striking ( no kicks), good athleticism, and great wrestling would beat a guy with great striking, great wrestling, and great athleticism? This has gotten to the point of ludicrous. 10 threads about Weidman and Silva and now one about how Weidman would beat Jones....hell he would beat GSP as well. Cain? Sure thing. Ridiculous. This forum is full of mass amounts of silliness.
WTF are some of you guys talking about? A guy with decent striking ( no kicks), good athleticism, and great wrestling would beat a guy with great striking, great wrestling, and great athleticism? This has gotten to the point of ludicrous. 10 threads about Weidman and Silva and now one about how Weidman would beat Jones....hell he would beat GSP as well. Cain? Sure thing. Ridiculous. This forum is full of mass amounts of silliness.
Yah real slaughter who's the better striker Silva or Jones?How is Jones off his back? Weidman has better BJJ and wrestling then Jones so how is Jones going to win? striking ? lol
Jones is a much stronger guy imo, and would def win the wrestling exchanges. He'd also stay on the outside and do what he does best, push guys back and jab their face off. Weidman would get predictable at shooting in, and Jones would have the option to grapple or not. If they did grapple, Jones wouldn't have too much trouble staying on top.
Vs Cain, really? Cain would be able to out muscle him and probably would accidently KO him.
This is just getting stupid now. Chris would NOT beat Jones, not now, not ever. This rematch can't come quick enough, I can't wait for silva to beat this over hyped wannabe up.
i think whoever the better wrestler/grappler is would win fight, whether it be dec/stoppage or sub.. both have amazing top games and can finish the fight, whoever could get the takedowns would win IMO. both have 100% TDD:confused02:
Jones, if were to pull a Silva and just hang that chin out there and throw no punches, MIGHT lose.
But Jones wouldn't do that.
Jones wins via murder in round 1. No doubt. Weidman showed me nothing against Silva. Sonnen brought the fight much harder (in both fights) and Jones ragdolled him.
Weidman is nothing special.
I also do not care for Bones. But I do respect him. Bones would cry if he lost towWeidman. And rightfully so.
Weidman would get destroyed. There is no area that I think Weidman would enjoy an advantage in. Against Silva he at least had the wrestling so he could force the champ to have to think about more than just striking.
This thread is about 2 years too early. Let the man defend his belt first. Not saying he will or will not beat Jones, it's just too premature to talk about.
No shit, he hasn't even defended it yet and as much as I hope he does, I don't think he will. I think AS will come in just like GSP did with Serra and beat Weidman's ass. This thread is almost as meaningless as the incessant drivel about the P4P guy.
Jones wrestling is too dominant, especially his ground strikes. I am no grappling expert but he displays incredible grappling skills. His standup gets hyped because of fighters being cautious about the takedown.
At LHW the only guy I can see maybe beating Jones is Cormier. Thats Cormier fully adjusting to LHW and having two fights before facing Jones.
Weidman is too small for my liking. If Jones fought strictly standing then I can definetly see Machida, lil Nog and Mousasi beating Jones. Thats if they stand not worrying about the takedown.
Cormier is smaller than Weidman, he's just stockier.
and I don't think Jones is a better wrestler than Weidman either.
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