Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: right next door to somone
well...? By ice man i assume you mean Chuck Liddel, and he does'nt do much "take down" although he does do alot of pounding...if that makes sense. anywho, I am not a martial art's know it all by any means, but Judo has some of the best throw/takedown I'v ever learned....
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