Mir would be too gassed to even attempt a sub after Nogueira stopped every one of his attempts.
Gonzaga is really good on the ground, but again, I don't see it happening.
Nogueira has never been subbed in his MMA career. He has faced guys like Fedor, Ricco, Werdum, Kikuta, Horn, TK, Barnett, and Overeem. None of those guys subbed him. If none of them did, then what makes you think Gonzaga and freakin' Mir will?
Yeah, he has been subbed in ADCC, but MMA is quite different than that.
I think quite the opposite.
If gonzaga would win(which I highly doubt) it would be with strikes. I think Mir has a much better chance of actually submitting Nog. THat being said, I don't really think he could either. I mean, Babalu is a great fighter, but if you lose to a guy thats 20 lbs lighter than you, how are you gonna beat an amazing bjj guy thats weighs close to or over your weight? Nog is a strong dude, and I don't think Mir could pull off a successful sub. :dunno:
I still see Gonzaga as a grappler. I think his strikes are a secondary weapon. Im not saying he will sub Nog, but i think he has a reasonable chance, albeit a slim one considering Nog's sub defense.
I still see Gonzaga as a grappler. I think his strikes are a secondary weapon. Im not saying he will sub Nog, but i think he has a reasonable chance, albeit a slim one considering Nog's sub defense.
Gonzaga is better on the ground, however, he likes to strike(vs CC and vs Randy he used those leg kicks, particularly vs Randy, which is where he broke Coutures arm lol). Although he may have the ability, I don't think he would be the one taking Nog down, and I don't think he will sub Nog while on the bottom.
Mir has subbed guys on the bottom. Mir is almost purely BJJ, which is pretty much the reason why he isn't up there with the well rounded guys(like Nog). I think Mir would sub GG, and thus would have a better shot at Nog. But like I stated, it probably wouldn't happen either.
Mir wouldn't have a chance, as good as he is at BJJ Nog is def. better. Plus Mir hasn't been overly impresive since his accident.
Gonzaga would have a chance if he could get on top, but I still doubt it. Nog is just to good. But i would def. say that Gonzaga has a better chance than Mir.
Big Nog has some of the best submissions in the world...could one of these guys submit him? Maybe, but I see it being MUCH more likely that he submits them. Big Nog has like 30 MMA wins and I think about 20 are submissions. So to answer the question: no.
Big Nog has some of the best submissions in the world...could one of these guys submit him? Maybe, but I see it being MUCH more likely that he submits them. Big Nog has like 30 MMA wins and I think about 20 are submissions. So to answer the question: no.
without the accident id say mir would have a chance but not on his performances recently. never know this could be a future match if mir gets on a roll and on figt night anything can happen.
Fair enough. The only way I can see it being big though, is that if Mir lost, surely he'd be further down in a hole he can't escape, leading to retirement.
without the accident id say mir would have a chance but not on his performances recently. never know this could be a future match if mir gets on a roll and on figt night anything can happen.
Pre-accident Mir wouldn't sub Nogueira, either. The big myth is that pre-accident Mir was this unstoppable force, who didn't have any flaws. That's not true. Mir's gas tank back then was utter garbage. He'd gas before he even got the chance to attempt a sub on Nogueira.
gonzaga has a chance at beating Nog but i dont see him subbing Nog and mir is just garbage
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