Originally Posted by UseOf_A_Weapon
in response to DeLarge's comment about Ben being bad b/c he didnt make tommy tap with the armbar: you can't tap everyone with an armbar. my elbow can hyperextend. you couldnt tap me unless you had some extra point of leverage closer to my elbow than any armbar allows. same is probably true with tommy, because his arm was definitely hyperextended. it will cause tendon problems later on but still... ben had that armbar by the book. it's not his fault tommy didnt tap. to say that ben is bad because he couldn't force someone to tap with a perfectly executed armbar is ignorant..
that armbar wasnt exactly perfectly executed. if you look back both of his legs were above tommy's chest. you have to have one leg over the face and another across the chest right below both arms. that was why tommy held in so long, because he wasnt being held down by ben's legs.