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Originally Posted by kds13
Whoa whoa whoa...taking Barnett out of the equation now because he hasn't fought is logical but that doesn't make it less of a victory when Nog beat him. At the time Nog beat Barnett, he was the legitimate #3 or 4 HW. You can't erase that...
Randy beat the most overhyped fighter of 2007, GG. One kick does not make him the next Jesus. And Tim Sylvia was fighting with no operation of his back. Come on. Its very impressive what Randy has done, but its not enough to put him over Fedor or Nogueira.
Nog's wins are simply better than Randy's will ever be. Cro Cop, Barnett, Werdum, Kharitonov, Goodridge, Horn, Overeem, Herring, Tamura, Sapp, Inoue, Schilt, Henderson, Nastula.
You can't take any of those losses away. Barnett hasn't fought in a while now, but does that make the win less impressive when it happened back then? Of course not. Same with Cro Cop. Mirko hasn't looked good lately, but when Nog beat him he was a legit #2. You CANNOT take those losses away.
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That true, fair enough.
Even with those wins though, they're aging. Barnett was over a year ago now, and he was coming off a loss to Mirko and a win over a can. Werdum was over 18 months ago too.
I guess my criteria to be #1 requires that you fight well, and often, and recent wins trump old ones. But that's my bias.