03-03-2008, 01:40 AM
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True Grappler
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Originally Posted by bbjd7
No I understood your point I was just saying that Rickson had better BJJ IMO than Filho and that it's not even that close. But I get what youa re saying about his stand up being for him to win on the ground and not for him to win standing.
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That's true, but it's also important to remember that Rickson's BJJ was just alot better than everyone elses. While I won't dispute that he's the top jiu-jitsu mind in the world (at least, actively instructing, as Helio is still with us), his game in the early sport was relatively rudimentary, as was Royce's. It's important to remember that guys like Filho are working in an age where we have developed alot of the nuance that they didn't have back then.
For instance, Filho's attack game is much more versatile, much more aggressive. While he does finish strictly with armbars, he also has a much wider use of setups and attacks than Rickson does. We never saw Rickson using can openers and north south moves, and we saw a very limited guard game. It's a different time and a different sport. Filho isn't getting to fight guys who don't know jack-sh*t about BJJ, and he's still thoroughly dominating him on the ground.
It's not so much a not about Filho's raw ability in BJJ. It's hard to imagine that we can give anyone credit for doing what Rickson did in BJJ (even Marcelo failed to make the transition to MMA). In that respect, no one is comparable.
Still, you get what I'm saying.
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That's why I said Munoz is a better prospect. Stann will win the title when he gets a shot since Rhino blows and will defend it easily IMO until Munoz gets some wins under his belt. But I think his wrestling will be trouble for not only the WEC LHW divison but possibly the MMA LHW divison depending on how big he is since I really can't tell from the videos I've seen how he would match up with the LHW's in the UFC.
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Yeah. Like I said, that's a long way off, and I think he's an interesting prospect, but I'm still curious as to how he'll translate. Not everyone does that well. He might, and his athleticism probably will, but we'll see. |
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