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post #10 of (permalink) Old 06-03-2008, 05:04 PM
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No I understand but when a guy who's a very good MMA grappler goes to the ground with a world class ADCC grappler they lose.
Not all the time, Marcelo didn't submit his first MMA opponent, and I wouldn't say his opponent was very good at MMA grappling.

Traven's way better a pure grappling than Frank Mir, but Traven got armbarred in their fight.

Granted, Jacare has way more fights and experience than those 2, but still, not all the time does a ADCC grappler beat a pure MMA grappler in an MMA setting once it hits the ground.

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