ps. thanks for those vids on pa kua americanfighter, made me laugh, and remember a time when i was so naive as to think such things were realistic. to each their own, i dont feel like going in circles with either of u anymore, i didn't expect to change your minds, i jsut didnt want your anti-logical supernatural beliefs to poison the minds of any prospective martial artists who may read this thread.
the circle walking is part of the training when a pa kua fighter fights the dont do that.
"The fat man flies at midnight"