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Old 07-08-2008, 12:46 AM   #185 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by taadland View Post
the show i'm talking about just ended idiot. you know that queer ass show where the coaches fight at the end of the season. you know the show that brings fans that don't know shit into these forums. you know that show that has dana white claiming the most significant fight in ufc history came from it. when in reality it was the most significant fight to zuffa and dana and spike tv. not the UFC. if bonnar and forrest had the most significant fight in UFC history, that would be like saying royce gracie, ken shamrock, dan severn, tank abbott, frank shamrock, tito ortiz, don frye, guy metzger, bj penn, matt hughes, frank trigg, georges st pierre, chuck liddell, rich franklin, pedro rizzo, maurice smith, never faught in the ufc. and to say shogun was the number 1 contender at the time forrest beat him was also not true. he hadn't won a fight in the ufc. he may have got a title shot if he beat forrest true..but the ufc had hopes of having him fight chuck, and then a title shot for the winner of that fight. (since they wanted to unify the lhw belts between dan and page) but shogun turned out to be out of shape and overhyped. the pride rules made him look elite. it's a little different when you get to the cage. and chuck also lost that night to keith. (who destroyed forrest mind you)_ and also nobody that i know of besides page and anderson got title shots after one fight. anderson did because...well he's that good. (still didn't deserve it at the time) and rampage did because he was the last one to beat chuck, and the ufc signed him for that purpose...to fight chuck. name one person that forrest beat to earn a title shot besides shogun...and please don't say elvis, bonnar, or hector ramirez. man i like forrest griffin, and he no doubt has the title right now and he did WIN THE TITLE, but he got there on a silver platter from the show. (i hate the show and my opinion won't sway) season one (which was years ago, and he really hasn't had many very good fights since then, he wasn't even that dominant on sat. night, good enough to win but were you really that impressed?) and team rampage vs team forrest. and i'm not saying he doesn't have enough talent to fight the elite because in his last 2 fights he's knocked off two of the top 5 lhw in the world. i'm just saying he wasn't the #1 contender and if he wasn't the coach he wouldn't have faught rampage at this stage in the game. that's a no brainer if you know anything. we'll see how he holds up. i don't think for long when he's going to be fighting page, shogun, chuck, wanderlei, thiago silva, possibly anderson silva in his upcoming fights.
You gotta be kidding me. Forrest had the hardest run to coming the champion compared to the current and previous champions and weather you like it or not, Shogun was considered the no.1 fighter at the time and he did beat him, regardless of which shogun came up, then he beat rampage no.1 at the time. Taking down 2 no.1 fighters deserves to be the champion. but look at it this way

How did Rampage get his title shot: He beat Marvin Eastman whose 1-4 in the UFC and he gets a shot

Anderson Silva beats Chris Leben, not a number 1 contender but he gets the shot

Bj penn didn't have to fight ANYONE for his shot against Joe Daddy

Frank Mir fights Antoni Hardonk and Brock Lesnar and he's getting a shot after TUF 8


see where im going

You can argue that a lot of the people didn't deserve there shots, but i reckon if you win then the path to getting there becomes obsolete since the person won
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