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Old 06-27-2006, 11:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Firstly, Bass, it scares me that you think the UFC is being carried by Chris Leben and that you didn't name a heavyweight fighter in there.

Herman clearly beat Grove, but the judges look at failed submission attempts as a good thing instead of as a failiure (which is what happened to Kendall, he failed).
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