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post #15 of (permalink) Old 12-04-2008, 10:06 AM
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I don't know if Vinny will be able to get Bader to the ground.
I think Bader is definitely in danger of submission on the ground, but if he can use his TDD and punch Vinny long Mashall said Black belts turn into Brown belts when they start taking punches.
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