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Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva, November 2006 - Just Announced

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#1 · (Edited)
Here it is...... JUST ANNOUNCED

If Chuck Liddell wins against Babalu then in NOVEMBER 2006 he will face...

Wanderlei Silva
 
#52 ·
ZZtigerZZ81 said:
Couldn't be put better. Liddell's fecal matter will be spread out on the mat. I feel sorry for that guy. However, if Wand goes through the grand prix in pride he will only have about two months to prepare and heal up for this big fight.
Then again he could probably take Liddell with one eye closed.
We'll see how Wanderlei does against some real competition and when he can't stomp people, oh yeah we already did, Tito Ortiz pummeled him and Vitor Belfort knocked his ass out in 44 seconds. Wanderlei is too wild and will not be able to stand up to Chuck's superior strikes. He could get lucky but I very Seriously doubt it, if Chuck hits him once it may all be over.
 
#53 ·
I thinks it depends what rules are gonna be in effect for this fight Silva's biggest weapons are his knee's. In pride there are more legal ways you can use knees while on the ground thats why Sylvia is so dominate in pride. Ufc has limitations on how you can attack some one with a knee from the ground. Personally i think this fight should take place in a parking lot.
 
#55 ·
Cbingham said:
We'll see how Wanderlei does against some real competition and when he can't stomp people, oh yeah we already did, Tito Ortiz pummeled him and Vitor Belfort knocked his ass out in 44 seconds. Wanderlei is too wild and will not be able to stand up to Chuck's superior strikes. He could get lucky but I very Seriously doubt it, if Chuck hits him once it may all be over.
He and Tito fought a LONG time ago. Did you not see him on the last Pride? He will be a handful, and should be a good fight.
 
#56 ·
Pride puts all these "punching bags" in front of there "top" guys and when people see them get destroyed they assume the guy handing out the ass whipping is one of the greates fighter out there. Its bullshit.
You have a great point there. Look at the heavyweights last 10 fights.
FEDOR- 3/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world
NOG- 2/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world
CROCOP- 3/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world
HUNT- 2/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world + Silva on short notice
BARNETT- 4/5 against top 10 ranked heavys in the world...

Hold on a sec...that 14/25 against the top 5, add the next 2 rounds of the GP and you'll get 17/28 if you include Silva in the mix. So your saying the top 5 ranked heavys in the world are "punching bags?".

UFC is soooo weak in the heavys that after AA and Silvia, there isn't much. Paul "The Headhunter" Buentello, Justin Eilers, Assuerio Silva, Tra "Trauma" Telligman and Mike Block are not "punching bags", thats the opponents for your 2 heavys besides each other.

Cmon, UFC is slightly stronger in the lighter classes and seriously outmatched in the LHW and HW divisions. Chuck VS Wand will be a great fight, not forgetting Pride has the #1 ranked LHW in the world as well...SHOGUN! ( and Arona and little NOG)
 
#57 · (Edited)
Chuck Shall Reign Supreme

Anyone betting on WANKerlei Silva is going to have an empty wallet August 27th. Givin that Chuck's takedown defence is getting close to impeccable, I'd say Silva's gonna get taken to school. This is the striker's era in the UFC. Wanderlei will return to Pride not only with his tail between his legs, but his whole face will look like an eggplant - bruised. I'll bet anyone, no reasonable offer refused!
 
#58 ·
Wandy is no submissionist. He never takes people down. So your premise is way off, in my view.

Both are stand up strikers. Wandy throws a lot of hooks at a time, rocking left and right as he does. He is very fast, but the hooking motion of his combinations does take some speed away.

Chuck throws with a straight-ahead style a lot, and can easily KO his opponent with a straight, short punch (see both Couture fights).

This one has to go to Liddell. Neither guy will waste energy on the ground.

Thak
:mad:
 
#59 · (Edited)
MMAforce said:
I think a majority of people who post in here are in their Teen years, and haven't a clue as to what PRIDE and UFC is really about. As I stated, UFC has far better fighters than PRIDE, bar none, hands down.. There is no competition there. Now that you understand that, chuck Already beat Babalu. And Wanderlai, as I said, left UFC becuase he lost his only two UFC matches back to back, and had to go to PRIDE, becuase he could not hack it in the UFC. Do your research fellas, before you come on these boards spouting and touting your bull crap. UFC is like Major League baseball, whereas PRIDE is like College Ball, if that. Its on an HNL, hole notha level.

Again. Wanderlai was in UFC before, and lost all of his matches, 100% of his matches, ERGO had to goto PRIDE with the Sumo Wrestlers, and TAE kwan do experts. Give me a break... Whats funny is even in 2006 they still have Sumo wrestlers and TAe kwan do artists fighting, as if they are skilled. Its hilarious. Pride is more comprised of one or two martial arts, rather than MMA. Again, its like College Ball compared to the Major leagues.
UFC is on the HNL - Hole notha level. Get you rfacts straight guys before you post here, seriously. I would hate for people to misguided by a bunch of teenagers who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about.
But hey, if you want to watch Ex Sumo wrestlers fight Guys with a black belt in Tae Kwan Do, or some bull crap like that, watch PRIDE.

PRIDE is like the WWF. If you like watching a bunch of Non talent artists fighting, or just Single Talented fighters fight, then watch Pride.. If you want to watch true MMA, head on down to the UFC. Simple facts.

That will be all.
smashT
Dude You got a lot of balls comming here spewing your garbage and trying to run shit.. ! :mad: :mad: :mad: Calling people "Newbs", "Teens", "Wannabee MMA'ers" and telling them to do thier research just because thier "Opinions" don't coinsides with yours.. Might I suggest that Since you're such an authority on the MMA scene, that maybe you should dive into those massive archives -that only a professional like you must have- and do a little research yourself. You know., Practice what you preach..!! Yes it's true that Wandelei lost to Belfort and Ortiz, but that was like 7 or 8 years ago he's a much improved fighter now and today he could beat ether.. Need I remind you, Chuck has a few blemishes on his record as well..! Also your suggestion that Wandelei Left the UFC because he couldn't win there is ludacrous. Am I to say the same of Chuck just because he go his ass kicked by Rampage (on PRIDE turf)..? Oh., by the way, Wandelei Beat Rampage (Also on PRIDE..) Just in case your research doesn't turn that up..!! The truth is that Both Fighters have had lossses ( Which Champ Hasn't.?) It's part of thier evolvement, Part of thier growth.. Both fighters have grown and evolved tremendously since thier respective losses into what they are today, "CHAMPIONS".! If you for one minute think any less of ether one you're a Fool.. Also, If you think PRIDE is little league or to qoute you "Preschool" then you are equally a fool..! PRIDE includes fighters from all over the world and in all disciplines of hand to hand combat (i.e., MMA) That's why they are a bigger draw than the UFC. They also have more fighters hence, fights are more equally matched and more competative..! I can go on and on but what's the point.? Putting it all in a nutshell, you know what I found out.? That I'm A big UFC Fan, But I'm an even bigger MMA Fan. Unlike you, I can walk across the street and chew gum at the same time. I enjoy watching the UFC. In addition, I enjoy watching PRIDE, K-1 and anything else that showcase an MMA event.. Most of the people on this site do as well.!!!
 
#61 ·
This is going to be great. It's also happening a lot sooner than I expected it. Whether Lidell gets past Sobral to make it all a reality is one thing (but highly likely at this juncture), but the fact that it is happening alone is monumental.

When the MMA organizations come to the point where their promotions are handled in a fully integrated fashion (like boxing is) there will be no more of these annoying "Pride vs UFC" pissing contests. It will all be about fighters vs fighters.

If we are truly MMA fans, that is where we want this sport to be.
 
#62 ·
MMAforce said:
You guys are absolute MMA newbs if you think some scrub like Wanderlai has a chance vs Liddell.

Let me clear something up for you wannabee MMA'ers.

PRIDE = The absolute worst competition there is. Wanderlai could NOT hack it in the UFC, losing to both TITO ORTIZ and VITOR BELFORT, so he went to Pride. You want the truth? Thats the truth. He could not hack it in the Octagon, so he went to PRIDE where the Majority (NOT ALL) are sub-par fighters, and I give them nothing more than a Golf clap for their efforts.

K1 = WORSE than Pride. Don't even go there

UFC = All time best MMA there is, hands down, bar none. Best fighters come from UFC.


As I said already. WANDERLAI could not hack it in the UFC in the late nineties, and had to goto Pride to fight sub par fighters because of it. Now hes coming back, and going to get absolutely demolished, and smashT and crushT from Liddell, it won't even be worth watching. Wanderlei will be exiting preschool (Pride fighting) and skipping all the grade levels straight to College (UFC). He hasn't a chance in hell.

Do your research on the fighters who you guys think are good prior to just all of the sudden thinking they are going to come to the UFC and crush people. UFC has the absolute best fighters in World. Pride is like Pre-school in comparison. Get your facts striaght people :mad: :mad: :mad: Pride is like WWF - Bunch of cream filled, fluffy ******ry bull shit. Welcome to 2006.. welcome to the UFC.


Oh yeah one last thing. PRIDE is like UFC in 1994.... Having Sumo wrestlers fighting Karate(TAE KWAN DO) specialists.. Its absolutely pathetic.. MMA has evolved so much, yet PRIDE still hasn't got it through their thick heads. Live in the now People!

Oh yeah, and as for BABALU -

UFC 40: Vendetta (11/22/02), Babalu was KO'd by a kick to the head from Chuck Liddell in 2:59 of the first round.

smashT
who gave you permission to talk all this s*** about wanderlei or anybody. they have sacrificed millions to make it where they are. as i see it, they're more successful in one night than alot of people make it their whole lives, so they must be doing something right. and also, whether they match-up good to most of the other fights in the sport of mma or not, they are good...you can not say that one ultimate fighter sucks.
 
#64 ·
Anyone else think Dana's announcement of the match up was pretty weak? I'm not sure whether it was due to everyone being upset over the letdown of the Tito/Shamrock fight or whether just all the clueless people at Mandalay Bay didn't know who Wanderlei was. The fact Chuck has to beat Babalu to make the fight happen, which Dana mentions, made it seem weird too. Maybe they should have brought him out after UFC62...

It seems Dana and the announcers specifically were directed not to say "Pride", I'm surprised they didn't blur his t-shirt. The announcers just said he was popular in Japan, talk about an understatement. It would have been better if they announced him as a Pride champion and have both guys with their belts on, they could market it as the fight to determine the true champion. But it was a cool staredown regardless. :D

BTW, Wanderlei did a similar appearance at UFC after a Randy Couture fight as well. Hopefully the fight materializes this time!
 
#67 · (Edited)
Cbingham said:
We'll see how Wanderlei does against some real competition and when he can't stomp people, oh yeah we already did, Tito Ortiz pummeled him and Vitor Belfort knocked his ass out in 44 seconds. Wanderlei is too wild and will not be able to stand up to Chuck's superior strikes. He could get lucky but I very Seriously doubt it, if Chuck hits him once it may all be over.
Why is that you self proclaimed know-it-all's always try to bully or impose your "one-sided" oppinoins on others yet everytime you open your mouths you contradict yourselves and put your foot in it..? Dude you tell ranger595 to "watch a little more" and to go do "a little more research" because he used Chucks lost to Rampage as an example in his post and you feel that since that happen "Almost 4 years ago" that he( ranger595 ) is a fool, especially since Chuck is now -to put it in a nutshell- much improved..(on Chuck's Improvement I agree) But, when you answer ZZtigerZZ81 post, you use Wandelei's losses to Tito and Victor as your examples..:confused: Guess what..? That happend like 7 or 8 years ago..! News Flash, Wandelei in that time has also much improved.! It's no wonder that you agree with and praise so much That other "wind-Bag" MMAforce... The most intellegent thing you ever said on this forum was that "Tyson in his prime was one scary guy, and poor little Fedor would stand no chance at all under any circumstances. It would be absolutely imbarrasing for him." And even though I wholeheartedly agree, that opinion too remains open for interpertation ..!
 
#69 ·
Onganju said:
This is going to be great. It's also happening a lot sooner than I expected it. Whether Lidell gets past Sobral to make it all a reality is one thing (but highly likely at this juncture), but the fact that it is happening alone is monumental.

When the MMA organizations come to the point where their promotions are handled in a fully integrated fashion (like boxing is) there will be no more of these annoying "Pride vs UFC" pissing contests. It will all be about fighters vs fighters.

If we are truly MMA fans, that is where we want this sport to be.
Fighter against Fighter... What a concept..! It's all a true MMA Fan wants... Kudos to you freind.. Many here have eyes but can not see...!
 
#74 ·
moldy said:
This is rediculous. Chuck has to beat Babalu first. And Wand has to avoid injury in the GP. This fight isn't for sure at all. Chuck could easily lose. And Wand has to fight twice in one night. He could really get hurt. He's fighting some big boys.
No It's not rediculous at all..! I guess what has everybody creaming in thier pants is the posiblity that this thing may finally really happen..! It's no longer a fantasy dream, it's damn near a fact..! Nobody who has even the smallest idea of what can happen in "ANY" MMA event is oblivious to the prior task each fighter has at hand, or the difficulty of that task and the definition of what failing to forfill thier respective task can mean.. I think it's safe to say that, this fight is so antisapated by so many MMA fans that we can't control the excitement of how close this fight is to becoming a reality.. So accordingly for the moment, this is all anyone can talk about.. But I assure you within the coming days the smoke will clear and the focus will shift to thier upcoming task.! These fighter are going to be looked at like never before. Each fighters fighting style, fighting history, physical ability, mental attitude trianing habits, condistioning, temperment and personal growth is going to be studied, scrutinized, compared and evalueated. By fight time, thier respective fighting careers will be disected like they were prehistoric creatures of the unknown..! This fight is big and no stone leading up to it will be left unturn..!!
My personal feelings are that Chuck will survive Babalu. But I am aware that this isn't by any means is an easy task. In fact, If it weren't For The Posible Wandlei Showdown, everyone would be looking at this fight as Chuck Biggest Contest to date. As for Wandelei, He's in a tornament (the grand Prix) and we all know the risk to a fighter in a tornament style event. Multiple fights in one night amps the risk of injury, but I think he -like Chuck- will prevail hopefully without being worst for wear.. Still, I haven't found out who his opponets will be yet so naturally there are injury concern, but not many..!
 
#75 ·
Wowzers!!

I cant believe how dumb you just made yourself look by saying Wand couldnt hack it in the UFC my god and you had the nerve to call the rest of the guys NEWBYS Dude for one Wand has gotten so much better it isnt even funny two how could you ever say he is a slouch you need to just chill bro you really havent a clue as to what it is to be a champ and also pride pays its fighters way in the hell more than UFC does thats why hes there and another thing Pride has better athletes no doubt no need to say ne more I gues Wand will beat the nuts off of chuck then you wont have a place to swing
SAD STORY
 
#76 ·
LatinHeat88 said:
Why is that you self proclaimed know-it-all's always try to bully or impose your "one-sided" oppinoins on others yet everytime you open your mouths you contradict yourselves and put your foot in it..? Dude you tell ranger595 to "watch a little more" and to go do "a little more research" because he used Chucks lost to Rampage as an example in his post and you feel that since that happen "Almost 4 years ago" that he( ranger595 ) is a fool, especially since Chuck is now -to put it in a nutshell- much improved..(on Chuck's Improvement I agree) But, when you answer ZZtigerZZ81 post, you use Wandelei's losses to Tito and Victor as your examples..:confused: Guess what..? That happend like 7 or 8 years ago..! News Flash, Wandelei in that time has also much improved.! It's no wonder that you agree with and praise so much That other "wind-Bag" MMAforce... The most intellegent thing you ever said on this forum was that "Tyson in his prime was one scary guy, and poor little Fedor would stand no chance at all under any circumstances. It would be absolutely imbarrasing for him." And even though I wholeheartedly agree, that opinion too remains open for interpertation ..!

First Ranger is my tag bc I used to b a USARMY RANGER.... And have forgotten more actual fights than uz have posts....

I've been a fan of the fight game when boxing was on prime time ABC!...There4, I feel particularly entitled to my opinions.... That's all they are. Believe me I do as much research as I have the time and reasources. But in the absense of facts. Please feel free to enlighten me.

Yes, you're right it did happen four years ago, but to dismiss the event like it didn't happen or doesn't matter is silly. And to say that I'm a fool or personally attack me without addressing my issue only strengthens my point. It was also in Japan. Maybe bad Sush....The rules were also different...blah...blah...

The Point is that he Quit!

What great champion in any combat sport quit?
 
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