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Bellator FC Bellator MMA (Bellator) is the 2nd largest mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion in the USA and the largest tournament-based MMA organization in the world. Headquartered in Newport Beach, California, the company was formed in 2008 by Chairman and CEO Bjorn Rebney. Bellator’s events are primarily structured around tournaments. The tournament winner is declared the number one contender in their respective weight class, and is awarded a check for $100,000 and a shot at the reigning Bellator champion. Bellator uses the motto “The Toughest Tournament In Sports” Bellator FC now airs on Spike TV Thursday nights!
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12-12-2012, 01:27 PM
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Not just that but they have amazing talent. Douglas Lima, Rick Hawn, Michael Chandler, Pat Curran and others are very talented fighters and IMO would be immediate top 10 fighters in the UFC and even title contenders. There are guys over there right now that Dana would love to get his hands on. I'm sure eventually he will get his hands on most of them.
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Yeah they've got a lot of good guys especially at 170 and below but Chandler/Alvarez is one of those fights everyone should watch, it was awesome.
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Because I generally am too busy Friday's. And I only like watching high level fighters. I shouldn't watch a fight and feel like I could even hang with you and most of those guys give me that feeling. Also the announcing is only a step above Gus Johnson.
I have seen that fight and I enjoyed it. But it's the same thing are those guys actually any good? I don't enjoy big fish in a small pond. That fight was very good though.
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That's what I'm saying, it was a very good fight and I personally think Chandler would tear it up in the UFC. |
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12-12-2012, 02:45 PM
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Wow that's insane. If you could compete with those guys then I suggest you quit your job and take up fighting full time because you will make a decent living if you have that kind of talent. There are more then a handful of fighters right now with Bellator that are top 5 in the World at their weight class. Especially smaller fighters, like mentioned. Hell Pat Curran could very well be the 2nd best FW in the World right now and Chandler looks like a legit top 5 LW even in that extremely deep division.
I didn't expect you to have that kind of response. Seems extremely ignorant IMO.
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Obviously don't mean the champs. But I regularly spar with a guy on bellators roster a former strikeforce fighter and a ufc fighter. I don't fight full time because I don't want to. I've had a lot of health problems in the past and it's just not something I want to do to my body. At one point some years ago I was living in California and planning to make a living on fighting.
And back to what I said about not liking watching big fish in a small pond.
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12-12-2012, 03:27 PM
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Obviously don't mean the champs. But I regularly spar with a guy on bellators roster a former strikeforce fighter and a ufc fighter. I don't fight full time because I don't want to. I've had a lot of health problems in the past and it's just not something I want to do to my body. At one point some years ago I was living in California and planning to make a living on fighting.
And back to what I said about not liking watching big fish in a small pond.
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It's not just their champs that are talented. They have plenty of talent, like I mentioned before they have guys that aren't Champions that are UFC level talents and guys that Zuffa would sign in a heartbeat. Just at FW not including Curran, who is a monster, you have guys like Straus, Sandro, Martinez, Shamhalaev all in the same weight class that are very solid fighters and Straus is even ranked in the top 10.
They have arguably 6 of the top 15 BW on roster with Galvao, Nogueria, Dantas, Nam, Vila and Warren.
There are so many other extremely talented guys I'm not even mentioning.
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12-12-2012, 03:38 PM
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Okay man. We clearly have a difference of opinion and it's not going to matter what I say.
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12-12-2012, 03:51 PM
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Okay man. We clearly have a difference of opinion and it's not going to matter what I say.
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Difference in opinion on how talented the fighters are? Your opinion seems to be one of ignorance since you openly admit to not watching or having interest in Bellator. You even had to ask whether or not Chandler and Alvarez were any good when both have been or currently are ranked fighters.
Say what you have to say, it's impossible to offend me. I just don't know how anyone that has actually watched these men fight can claim they aren't talented fighters. But when someone who admits they don't watch to claim that someone they have never seen fight isn't talented just blows my mind. That's like me giving a review on a movie I have never seen. How is that a respectable opinion?
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12-12-2012, 04:08 PM
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Like I said doesn't matter what I say. I never said Alvarez and Chandler aren't talented but they are ranked because they are in a shallow division. They have never been tested against elite competition. If people can question Aldo they can definitely question two guys who have never really fought anyone.
I only question if they look impressive because of who they are fighting. What I'm saying is if I showed you high school musical 3 then transformers 2 and asked which was better you're probably going to say transformers that doesn't mean it's an all time great film.
I also never said I could beat any of them I said hang with them. As in not get my ass kicked badly. Which should be the case if I roll or spar with a top level pro.
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12-12-2012, 04:13 PM
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Dude!, Transformers rocked.
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12-12-2012, 04:16 PM
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You mean when Shia lebeaf died and went to robot heaven....
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12-12-2012, 04:22 PM
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Like I said doesn't matter what I say. I never said Alvarez and Chandler aren't talented but they are ranked because they are in a shallow division. They have never been tested against elite competition. If people can question Aldo they can definitely question two guys who have never really fought anyone.
I only question if they look impressive because of who they are fighting. What I'm saying is if I showed you high school musical 3 then transformers 2 and asked which was better you're probably going to say transformers that doesn't mean it's an all time great film.
I also never said I could beat any of them I said hang with them. As in not get my ass kicked badly. Which should be the case if I roll or spar with a top level pro.
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I'm stuck on the point that you admit you don't watch and have no interest yet you feel you have enough information to rate the skill level of fighters you have never seen fight. How can you judge the competition when you haven't seen them in action? I think you are doing alot of assuming and guessing. I don't think you are aware of the amount of talent in Bellator. But how can you if you don't have the time or interest in watching them in action? So that brings me back to key problem here. You are giving opinions on something you haven't seen, how can you give analysis without information?
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12-12-2012, 04:26 PM
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I'm stuck on the point that you admit you don't watch and have no interest yet you feel you have enough information to rate the skill level of fighters you have never seen fight. How can you judge the competition when you haven't seen them in action? I think you are doing alot of assuming and guessing. I don't think you are aware of the amount of talent in Bellator. But how can you if you don't have the time or interest in watching them in action? So that brings me back to key problem here. You are giving opinions on something you haven't seen, how can you give analysis without information?
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I tried watching bellator. That's how I know the announcing is horrid and how I have thoughts on the fighters. I turn it on when I'm home and nothing else's on and I've never been impressed.
Jesus. If anything I should be distorted the other way because I only ever watch the name fighters and the fights people talk about. And I enjoy those fights but whenever I watch anything else it has been bad.
So I stand corrected I only watch when I run into it. I should have said I only make time for it if I know someone on the card personally.
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Bellator moves to Thursdays.
