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post #71 of 86 (permalink) Old 08-05-2013, 07:20 PM
 
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Why would they. The only people that are actually going to order this PPV are the people that dislike the UFC anyways...

Bellator should stick to free events and stay away from washed up bums that are only in it for the money... Jackson and Ortiz being reborn and loving MMA again because they are away from the UFC... BS...
I think you underestimate the drawing power they have, losing records or not they are both very well known and historically have been two of the better draws for the UFC, if promoted properly I would expect it to perform better than the Affliction PPV's. They are not marketing to the hardcore fans those guys have lost interest and know that neither Tito or Rampage is a top LHW, the main target audiance is the cassual UFC fan and getting them to be casual Bellator fans and that is going to likely have some success as even though Tito and Rampage are not even top 10 LHW's anymore they are two of the biggest stars in the history of the division and to the part time fan they have more drawing power than 99% of the LHW division.

The smart money on this fight is to sell it as Rampage vs Ortiz and rarely if ever mention Bellator until people order the fight.




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I think you underestimate the drawing power they have, losing records or not they are both very well known and historically have been two of the better draws for the UFC, if promoted properly I would expect it to perform better than the Affliction PPV's. They are not marketing to the hardcore fans those guys have lost interest and know that neither Tito or Rampage is a top LHW, the main target audiance is the cassual UFC fan and getting them to be casual Bellator fans and that is going to likely have some success as even though Tito and Rampage are not even top 10 LHW's anymore they are two of the biggest stars in the history of the division and to the part time fan they have more drawing power than 99% of the LHW division.

The smart money on this fight is to sell it as Rampage vs Ortiz and rarely if ever mention Bellator until people order the fight.
I agree, the H-core fans are going to be watching for all the fights that are not Rampage vs Tito primarily, with that fight only holding nostalgic or sentimental value over that of BFC best fighters fighting to them.

As for promoton, they are selling the names over the records, and they are not the only, or the biggest, promotion who has been doing more of that lately. I think the fact that Rampage and Tito have a combined 50 UFC fights with less then 10 of them not being the Co-Main or Main event has a lot more to do with this booking then does their recent records. BFC is catering to who the UFC caters to, the fans who see names above all else and don't know any better.

It's two of the sports all time most popular and well known fighters who happened to also of been (not still today) at one point two of the sports greatest as well. That is the promotional hook on a big part. All the other fights are just going to be bonuses for people who like to watch fights.

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I agree, the H-core fans are going to be watching for all the fights that are not Rampage vs Tito primarily, with that fight only holding nostalgic or sentimental value over that of BFC best fighters fighting to them.

As for promoton, they are selling the names over the records, and they are not the only, or the biggest, promotion who has been doing more of that lately. I think the fact that Rampage and Tito have a combined 50 UFC fights with less then 10 of them not being the Co-Main or Main event has a lot more to do with this booking then does their recent records. BFC is catering to who the UFC caters to, the fans who see names above all else and don't know any better.

It's two of the sports all time most popular and well known fighters who happened to also of been (not still today) at one point two of the sports greatest as well. That is the promotional hook on a big part. All the other fights are just going to be bonuses for people who like to watch fights.
Can't say they are I mean the UFC has a guy who is 5/5 in his last ten fighting a guy who is 6-4 in his last 10 in the main even of the next card.




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Having Chandler/Alvarez II on the card makes this watchable, if only for one fight.


Also, I would be really insulted if I were Chandler or Alvarez and I was not headlining this card and had to be booked below a couple of has been wrestling wannabe's.
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Having Chandler/Alvarez II on the card makes this watchable, if only for one fight.


Also, I would be really insulted if I were Chandler or Alvarez and I was not headlining this card and had to be booked below a couple of has been wrestling wannabe's.
Title fights playing second fiddle to UFC rejects. It will get them ppv buys which is what they are after but it makes them look second rate


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Title fights playing second fiddle to UFC rejects. It will get them ppv buys which is what they are after but it makes them look second rate


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I honestly don't think this ppv is gonna do much in the way of buys. Bellator's free fights on Spike are not doing well right now, this is a horrible move for them.
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LW's don't draw

Bellator needs to treat this like a super card

The card should likely be

Tito Ortiz vs Rampage Jackson
Michael Chandler vs Eddie Alvarez
Emanuel Newton vs Attila Vegh
Pat Curran vs Shinya Aoki

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LW's don't draw

Bellator needs to treat this like a super card
Mr. Penn disagrees with you



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Really? Yeah Penn draws more that most lightweight fighters but he was always supported by a good undercard with big names on it.

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Mr. Penn disagrees with you
Mr. Penn drew better at WW than a LW.
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