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Old 08-13-2013, 04:55 PM   #81 (permalink)

 
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Mr. Penn drew better at WW than a LW.
Disagree he just fought better drawing fighters at ww but in 2009 he was the #2 drawing fighter in the world.

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Outside of GSP Penn's biggest draws were 101 and 107 both over 500k if I remember correctly.

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Old 08-22-2013, 04:18 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Saw an article that says price will likely be $35-45. Good luck Bellator...

Ortiz and Rampage could barely draw in PPV's back in the UFC fighting more relevant fighters and you think they are going to draw people into this?

Some people will buy this but it won't be because of Tito and Rampage. It will be the Bellator faithfuls who want to see the two title fights on the card and whatever else Bellator decides to stack on to finish this card. Problem is that even if they put on a good show it is going to be a long time before they put on another good one since all their top fighters will have just recently fought.

I still think this move by Bellator is retarded. They should have stayed away from the PPV business and from UFC has beens that are going to cost them more then what they will make them.

Strikeforce, Affliction and others have all tried this and it failed miserably for them because they don't have the skill level or following to compete with the UFC. Bellator should have stayed smart and stuck with the minor leaguers if they want to stay in the business...
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It's not to try to pry away MMA hipsters, but the casual fans Bellator is going for by using Tito and Rampage. So the UFC might want to give them an alternative by using a free card as direct competition. I'm sure the UFC wants to keep Bellator from getting every dollar they can after all of Spike's counter-programming.

They have a Fight for the troops scheduled a few days later, It doesn't even have a venue yet so it's probably easy to move to Saturday. The only problem would be if FS1 has a college football game for that Saturday evening.
there are very good reasons why the UFC should not (and probably won't) counter program this.

1st is purely logical, you only have a certain amount of time and energy in a day. As a company owner, you want to use that time and energy, not to act against your competitors by preventing them to succeed, but by ensuring that your own business is successful and always evolving.

2nd is related to image and communication
You don't want to draw attention to your competitors, you don't want your target audience to believe that you are threatened by your competitors, they have to see you above the game, especially for the UFC, to have this "untouchable" image.
Not only by counter programming, they would draw extra attention to bellator's PPV, but also they will send the message that they feel threatened enough to use their time and energy against their competitors rather than for themselves.


Zuffa has proven time and time again that they are very good, excellent businessmen. they have a clear vision of what they are doing and where they want to go. I really can't imagine them doing such a "rookie mistake" business wise.

What bellator does is even more retarded, they're going toe to toe against the biggest fish in the pond. They're giving up their extremely positive image, which has proven very successful in drawing hardcore MMA fans as well as casuals on the way, establishing a very solid and faithful fanbase, they're giving it up to become what they claimed they were up against, losing credibility amongst their most loyal fans in the process.

I was really starting to look forward to what bellator had in stores for us in terms of quality competitive fights, and somehow I still hope they can keep this thing going, but the tito/rampage thing is proper ridiculous.

The only gain they have from it is that it effectively promotes their brand by making people talk more about it. So was it what they were after? it's possible, but at the cost of some credibility amongst their most loyal fans.
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Disagree he just fought better drawing fighters at ww but in 2009 he was the #2 drawing fighter in the world.
Because their were no other LW's that draw money, to further the point....

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Outside of GSP Penn's biggest draws were 101 and 107 both over 500k if I remember correctly.
101 had Anderson Silva on the undercard and 107 was a LW fight against WW Diego Sanchez.
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