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post #31 of 41 (permalink) Old 08-02-2013, 06:45 PM
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Askren is one of my favourite fighters at the moment.

I think he beats most of the division, honestly, he's that good on the ground.
He is good on top. But he has never dealt with a Maia there. Or hell even a Condit there.

My fading memory may be wrong, but I remember Jay Heiron avoiding many of his TD attempts. Askren has a goofy/slow shot.
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post #32 of 41 (permalink) Old 08-02-2013, 07:09 PM
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I`m not a big fan of Askren but I know brilliance when I see it. His control is probably the best in MMA, I think potentially he may be the best welterweight in the world because of this. I`d still bet on GSP to beat him and I also could see guys like Condit, Maia, Ellenberger, Koscheck and MacDonald being good match ups against him. It`ll be very interesting to see when he goes up against either a ground master such as Maia or a big strong wrestler, I don`t know if hes able to take down and hold down every single welterweight in the world at will.

Bellator does have some great fighters I must say both Askren and Chandler I think could very well be the best in the world at there divisions but they need to prove this in the UFC against the top fighters.
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post #33 of 41 (permalink) Old 08-03-2013, 01:55 AM
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I used to be super high on Askren's prospects in the UFC's WW division. I know it's only one fight, but the Hieron fight really made me question that. Maybe it was just a bad night, but he very much struggled with the best fighter he ever fought. And I wouldn't rank Hieron's MMA wrestling that high compared to a lot of UFC WWs.

But honestly, I still want him in the UFC so he and Hendricks can finally fight.

Those guys have to fight for it to be a just world.

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post #34 of 41 (permalink) Old 08-03-2013, 02:26 AM
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I want to see the guy in the Ufc because...well that's where the best fighters need to go to be truly tested!

I hope Bel keeps it real as a secondary promo and doesn't get too carried away trying to promote guys like Tito and Rampage. Their ability to succeed imo is in providing quality up and coming fighters for the UFC.

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post #35 of 41 (permalink) Old 08-03-2013, 02:57 AM
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Bring him to the UFC, and give him Rory to smash. Ben is a top 5 WW. Here he comes GSP

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post #36 of 41 (permalink) Old 08-03-2013, 11:05 AM
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Bring him to the UFC, and give him Rory to smash. Ben is a top 5 WW. Here he comes GSP
I think Rory would beat him handily. Askren's shot isn't explosive, he more or less has to get close and drag you down. I think Rory would use the jab and kicks to easily fend him off. Askren got deep on Hieron a few times and was easily stuffed.

The guys Askren has fought aren't the best off their back either. UFC top 10s know to get to their feet much better than a Lima or the Russian the other night. And guys like Maia, Condit, Diaz have a guard that he hasn't seen in MMA as well.

Askren is brilliant on top. But his TD game is overrated by people just because of his world credentials. There have been a lot of one-dimensional world class wrestlers that never made it to the top. Effective vs. average talent, but never making it to the top.

Other than his top control, I'm not sure what people see in him. I guess his cardio is real good as well. If he could develop any sort of sub game from top he would be deadly.
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There have been a lot of one-dimensional world class wrestlers that never made it to the top. Effective vs. average talent, but never making it to the top.
What other Olympic / World championship gold caliber wrestlers have transitioned to MMA and never made it to the top?
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I can see Askren staying with Bellator, he's a big fish in a small pond and I don't see him being the kind of guy who would give that luxury up that easily.
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post #39 of 41 (permalink) Old 08-08-2013, 05:18 PM
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This was many moons ago... but Johnny and Askren have crossed paths before.

A lot of changed since 2002 but my thought is Hendricks can handle his wrestling.... but I don't think Askren's jaw can handle Johnny's left hook.
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The UFC and Bellator both are on drugs if they think I or any sane person is gonna pay to wath Ben Askren.

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