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Bellator FC Bellator MMA (Bellator) is the 2nd largest mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion in the USA and the largest tournament-based MMA organization in the world. Headquartered in Newport Beach, California, the company was formed in 2008 by Chairman and CEO Bjorn Rebney. Bellator’s events are primarily structured around tournaments. The tournament winner is declared the number one contender in their respective weight class, and is awarded a check for $100,000 and a shot at the reigning Bellator champion. Bellator uses the motto “The Toughest Tournament In Sports” Bellator FC now airs on Spike TV Thursday nights!

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Old 10-16-2013, 07:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If true, they are in some rough shape. I'll be honest, I've watched Bellator maybe twice at best, and I don't even think it's been that many times. I have a lot to do in my life and when I'm not working/taking care of business, I have many hobbies that take up my time. My MMA time is basically just the UFC these days, I don't watch other promotions. I'm sure there are many like that.
Yes, the UFC is successful in drying out the viewership for other promotions. You get an UFC event almost every week and including the prelims that's usually a 4-5 hour show. Then there are the post- and pre-fight shows for people interested. So people who don't have that much time available would have to chose what to watch and the UFC is just better at advertising their events with their market power alone.
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The Chandler/Alvarez fight is the only fight I am interested in. No way am I paying to see it though. Especially when no other fight on the card is interesting to me at all. I wouldn't mind seeing King Mo knocked out again, but I imagine he will wrestle this time and not be stupid. So he will get the title shot Bellator wanted him to have to begin with.
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Bellator runs things opposite of how the UFC does.

The UFC pits the best fighters it can find against fighters with a near to equal skill level.

Bellator handpicks the biggest draws they can find and feeds them cans, in a series of mismatches, to build them up. Similar to how japanese organizations used to feed their fighters cans to make them look more skilled and exciting than they actually are.

If you look at the finish rate for Bellator its ridiculously high.

Their finish average could be as high as 70% to 80% for every show they put on.

Very few decisions or even battles where one guy is canceling the other out due to the large disparity of skill level in matchmaking.

In that sense, Bellator is kind of boring. They're not giving their prospects the fights they need to build them up, improve their skills or help them gain valuable experience. They're only feeding them a series of mismatches to make their prospects look a lot better than they are.

If Bellator's top guys make it to the UFC, it could be the first time in their careers they'll face decent competition.
This is nonsense. There's a tournament format, which means there are a lot of mismatches in the early stages, and closely matched fights in the latter stages, just like in any other tournament.

Also, LMAO at the idea that the ufc gives their fighters the most evenly matched opponents as a rule.
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This is nonsense. There's a tournament format, which means there are a lot of mismatches in the early stages, and closely matched fights in the latter stages, just like in any other tournament.

Also, LMAO at the idea that the ufc gives their fighters the most evenly matched opponents as a rule.
I agree. How many upsets have we seen in Bellator? A ton. It's format gives everyone an equal chance. That is how we see new talent emerge.
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This is nonsense. There's a tournament format, which means there are a lot of mismatches in the early stages, and closely matched fights in the latter stages, just like in any other tournament.

Also, LMAO at the idea that the ufc gives their fighters the most evenly matched opponents as a rule.
Ben Askren has been the bellator champ for years. He's been fighting in the organization for even longer.

Hector Lombard can say the same.

Now, get this...

Ben Askren never faced decent competition until he fought Jay Hieron.

Hector Lombard never faced decent competition until he fought in the UFC.

That's because Bellator isn't in the business of building an organization with the best fighters and the best quality opponents.

Its in the business of feeding Askren, Lombard and most of their other champions cans. They feed prospects a series of mismatches to make them look more skillful and exciting than they actually are.

Then when their prospects like Askren face a decent level of competition in the form of Jay Hieron -- they get exposed. They never faced real competition in their careers and never competed at that level. They're completely unprepared for it.

It figures Sports Nerd and OU wouldn't get that.

You two aren't the brightest bulbs on the christmas tree.
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Ben Askren has been the bellator champ for years. He's been fighting in the organization for even longer.

Hector Lombard can say the same.

Now, get this...

Ben Askren never faced decent competition until he fought Jay Hieron.

Hector Lombard never faced decent competition until he fought in the UFC.

That's because Bellator isn't in the business of building an organization with the best fighters and the best quality opponents.

Its in the business of feeding Askren, Lombard and most of their other champions cans. They feed prospects a series of mismatches to make them look more skillful and exciting than they actually are.

Then when their prospects like Askren face a decent level of competition in the form of Jay Hieron -- they get exposed. They never faced real competition in their careers and never competed at that level. They're completely unprepared for it.

It figures Sports Nerd and OU wouldn't get that.

You two aren't the brightest bulbs on the christmas tree.
LOL please. I'm sorry you are stuck up Dana White's ass so far you think anyone without the magic 3 letters on the gloves are scrubs. But those of us that actually watch the sport of MMA(you probably refer to the sport as UFC) can see there are clearly world class fighters outside the UFC that are better then the majority of guys currently in the UFC. I'm sorry you can't grasp this concept. Half of the best smaller weight fighters(below LW) are not in the UFC.
But then again it's much easier to echo Dana White with "Just Bleed" written on your forehead.
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Jesus Christ... Would everyone just quit insinuating that others are stupid just they have differing opinions? It is pathetic. It is all over the place around here and people that can't fix that part of their attitude are going to start having a rough time around here. (If they remain around here)


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I'm not apologizing for my response as I don't see any problem with it. A shot was fired my way by some ignorant poster and I responded.
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I'm not apologizing for my response as I don't see any problem with it. A shot was fired my way by some ignorant poster and I responded.
I don't really care who said what first. This isn't the 3rd grade and people should be old enough to know that it doesn't fly anymore.

This is your only warning since now you have once again insulted someone. Another insult and you will be infracted. After that, it will be a ban.

That goes for everyone. If you can't get along here without insulting people then you don't need to be here.


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I'm not apologizing for my response as I don't see any problem with it. A shot was fired my way by some ignorant poster and I responded.
You and Trix are both wrong. Hit is right, it's absolutely pathetic that some people around here seriously cannot get into a debate without throwing insults back at each other or insinuating that the other person isn't a "true MMA fan".

This kind of stuff is being put to a stop around here. Don't reply to someone if you can't be civil, that goes for both of you and everyone else.
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