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Old 10-14-2013, 06:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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‘Rampage vs. Tito’ Ticket Sales Confirm That Bellator Is Pretty Much F*cked, You Guys

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The ticket sales for Bellator’s November 2nd pay-per-view debut are bad — basically as bad as they could possibly be less than a month out from the card.

On Friday, MMAJunkie’s John Morgan tweeted that the PPV had sold only approximately 1,700 tickets, with another 2,000 on consignment. Matt Roth of MMAMania noted just how dire the situation really is. He pointed out that the venue can hold over 13,000 people, meaning that Bellator would have to sell in the neighborhood of 10,000 tickets in less than 20 days to secure a sellout. That probably isn’t going to happen — not even if Tito Ortiz and Rampage Jackson became giants like in the awful trailer for the PPV.

Bjorn Rebney better be prepared to get a job at his dad’s Winnebago dealership; winter is coming for Bellator. Nobody is going to attend their PPV, and it’s probable that, at an expected price between $35-45, nobody is going to purchase their PPV either. Nobody gives a **** about their product and their titles are considered worthless. If the UFC stacked three title fights on a card, you’d expect success, even if it were the titles for the three lightest weight classes. But with Bellator, which is offering three title fights on its PPV (although one is a dubious interim title), nobody knows or cares. Hell, we’re a site whose fanbase is comprised pretty much of entirely hardcore fans, and judging by the front page poll, a third of you never even watch Bellator. If they can’t get the hardcores, what ******* chance do they have at getting the casual fans to drop money on this PPV?

Even more concerning is a recent report from MMAPayout about Bellator 102, which UFC “star” Cheick Kongo headlined. The show’s gate was only $73,410.43. A paltry 1,482 people attended the show but nearly half of those tickets (604 of them to be precise) were comped. Now, are you ready to be really amazed? Let’s look at the salaries.

Kongo made $60,000 for his fight against Mark Godbeer, who made $15,000. So the main event alone accounted for more money than the entire show made in ticket sales. The total salary payout for the entire card, including Kongo and Godbeer, was $308,000.

Subtract the gate from the salaries and you get $234,589.57 — that’s what Bellator lost on the show, or at least that’s the amount of money that Bellator needs to make up through sponsorships and other deals. “Well Viacom is rich and can take a loss on Bellator,” you say? True enough, it seems at first that Viacom could pull off the whole Ted Turner-WCW thing, but Viacom already paid $50 million for an inferior product and a Dana White lookalike. And that product is proving that it’s not financially sustainable. How much longer will Viacom decide to keep the sick man of MMA on life support?

It’s rare, but we’re going to have to agree with Dana White here: There’s no value to Bellator. The promotion still features some insanely talented fighters, but financially, they’re worse in the shit than Enron or WaMu. Get ready for Dana to add another name to the tombstone.
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Tough biz! They're getting publicity from Dana and that's what's keeping them afloat. I don't think they have a bad product, simply inflated in value.

Now SF was pretty legit. They built that from the ground up. I still wonder what they sold it for.
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Hahaha take that you shitty scumbag mediocre company, rampage and tito being without jobs again will be great and eventually when it folds all the lighter weight class talent can be in the UFC.
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Was it really confirmed? Really, sounds like more posers who are bigger fans of promotions then MMA.
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If true, they are in some rough shape. I'll be honest, I've watched Bellator maybe twice at best, and I don't even think it's been that many times. I have a lot to do in my life and when I'm not working/taking care of business, I have many hobbies that take up my time. My MMA time is basically just the UFC these days, I don't watch other promotions. I'm sure there are many like that.
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I try to pay attention to Bellator's fighters, but I don't have the time and when I heard of this main event, I knew the end was nigh.

The UFC is what they've always claimed to be now. If, as a pro fighter, you're not in it or publicly trying to be in it, you're not relevant to the bulk of MMA's audience.

Whether you agree or not is irrelevant, UFC is top and cemented as such for the foreseeable future, because other companies are suffering.
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Bellator has some great fighters, and a pretty good product. Tito vs Rampage is just bad management. That fight should never have happened, not as a main or even co-main event.

And on a card that has Alvarez vs Chandler... Rebney is an idiot.
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I think anyone that hasn't paid attention to Bellator is really missing out. I also think that anyone that watches just the UFC is really missing out. It's almost like the people that refer to MMA as UFC. Bellator is a great product with great fighters and right now they currently have the best LW on the planet fighting for their promotion.
Some of the best fighters in the World are in Bellator and if it wasn't for contract BS the UFC would snatch up a good number of those guys in a heart beat. There are plenty of fighters in Bellator that would be instant contenders and instantly in the UFC top 10 rankings. Anyone that thinks Michael Chandler and Pat Curran aren't elite world class fighters doesn't know what they hell they are talking about.
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I think anyone that hasn't paid attention to Bellator is really missing out. I also think that anyone that watches just the UFC is really missing out. It's almost like the people that refer to MMA as UFC. Bellator is a great product with great fighters and right now they currently have the best LW on the planet fighting for their promotion.
Some of the best fighters in the World are in Bellator and if it wasn't for contract BS the UFC would snatch up a good number of those guys in a heart beat. There are plenty of fighters in Bellator that would be instant contenders and instantly in the UFC top 10 rankings. Anyone that thinks Michael Chandler and Pat Curran aren't elite world class fighters doesn't know what they hell they are talking about.
I don't think it's about how good fighters are or not, it's about the amount of time someone wants to spend watching MMA and how well known the promotion itself is.

Casuals certainly aren't showing up to watch it, all they know is the UFC or perhaps all they want to watch is the UFC, it's the NFL of MMA after all.

There's a good portion of "hardcores" who don't watch it either like myself, simply out of the fact that our MMA time is better spent in the UFC than elsewhere. There's tons of divisions in MMA now, tons of fighters, tons of events from PPV events to free events, it's a lot to cover. Especially when you have other hobbies/things to do that take up as much if not more time.
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Bellator runs things opposite of how the UFC does.

The UFC pits the best fighters it can find against fighters with a near to equal skill level.

Bellator handpicks the biggest draws they can find and feeds them cans, in a series of mismatches, to build them up. Similar to how japanese organizations used to feed their fighters cans to make them look more skilled and exciting than they actually are.

If you look at the finish rate for Bellator its ridiculously high.

Their finish average could be as high as 70% to 80% for every show they put on.

Very few decisions or even battles where one guy is canceling the other out due to the large disparity of skill level in matchmaking.

In that sense, Bellator is kind of boring. They're not giving their prospects the fights they need to build them up, improve their skills or help them gain valuable experience. They're only feeding them a series of mismatches to make their prospects look a lot better than they are.

If Bellator's top guys make it to the UFC, it could be the first time in their careers they'll face decent competition.
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