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Old 05-19-2014, 06:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 05-19-2014, 06:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Get the **** of here. Conor McGregor has beaten Marcus Brimage and Max Holloway, two guys that are LEAGUES above anyone that Page has beaten. Michael Page is a prospect no doubt, but his competition has been awful so far, and to compare him to McGregor is laughable. McGregor, a 2 division champion in a decent organisation, and unbeaten in the UFC, is significantly more impressive than beating Ricky Rainey, Ramdan Mohamed, or any of the other 4 unknowns he's beaten.
He's a little time and a few fights, minus the losses, from being identical. He's got 7 wins by stoppage using unique stuff on the feet, like almost all of McGregors opponents until that point, except when Mcgregor was tapping out of course. Just like McGregor the opponents were far from impressive, guys who have still never won a fight level but make great highlight fodder. Conors titles were won not by beating the champions, they were Vacant and Buckinger was the only good decent challenger. He and Holloway are it, not Brimmage, and are not exactly a extremely higher measuring stick. It's why most people who are not Mcgregors #1 fan don;t think he's tested and don't overrate him, similar to how this guy is looking with hype not being fully backed by what is thus far shown. Conor's a little further along, but they are not far off.
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He's a little time and a few fights, minus the losses, from being identical. He's got 7 wins by stoppage using unique stuff on the feet, like almost all of McGregors opponents until that point, except when Mcgregor was tapping out of course. Just like McGregor the opponents were far from impressive, guys who have still never won a fight level but make great highlight fodder. Conors titles were won not by beating the champions, they were Vacant and Buckinger was the only good decent challenger. He and Holloway are it, not Brimmage, and are not exactly a extremely higher measuring stick. It's why most people who are not Mcgregors #1 fan don;t think he's tested and don't overrate him, similar to how this guy is looking with hype not being fully backed by what is thus far shown. Conor's a little further along, but they are not far off.
This.

The difference in quality between Holloway, Brimage and Rainey is negligible. If you look passed the hype they're pretty similar (MVP and McGregor), though from watching their styles I'd say MVP is begging to be KO'd whereas Conor looks good defensively.
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So MVP is getting dissed for fighting low level fights.....at 6-0?

Ricky Rainey was 8-2, 1-0 in Bellator, with 5 KO wins. That's a decent fight to set up, and because MVP made it a joke, Rainey is now "trash"?

He's moving up correctly. He has very little experience in MMA so he's learning it as he goes. He's facing similar record opponents along the way too.
Had this fight been Pages UFC debut he'd be the next big thing!

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The difference in quality between Holloway, Brimage and Rainey is negligible. If you look passed the hype they're pretty similar (MVP and McGregor), though from watching their styles I'd say MVP is begging to be KO'd whereas Conor looks good defensively.
Really? Rainey's never beaten anyone. Holloway, since the Conor fight has beaten up Andre Fili, who's immensely talented, and has a win over Leonard Garcia, who might be a bit wild, but is MUCH better than Rainey. As for Brimage, Conor made him look incredibly average, but he has solid wins over Jimy Hettes, Maximo Blanco, and Kyle Bradley. 3 guys WAY better than Ricky Rainey. McGregor might have the UFC hype machine working in overdrive, but to compare his record to Michael Page's record is laughable to say the least.

I rate Page incredibly highly, think he has a massive future, but one major reason he doesn't have a major hype machine behind him is due to his awful level of competition so far. He's being built up like a Boxer. He's being fed cans to help build up his record. Until he fights anyone remotely decent, with good wrestling, I can't believe the hype.
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Really? Rainey's never beaten anyone. Holloway, since the Conor fight has beaten up Andre Fili, who's immensely talented, and has a win over Leonard Garcia, who might be a bit wild, but is MUCH better than Rainey. As for Brimage, Conor made him look incredibly average, but he has solid wins over Jimy Hettes, Maximo Blanco, and Kyle Bradley. 3 guys WAY better than Ricky Rainey. McGregor might have the UFC hype machine working in overdrive, but to compare his record to Michael Page's record is laughable to say the least.

I rate Page incredibly highly, think he has a massive future, but one major reason he doesn't have a major hype machine behind him is due to his awful level of competition so far. He's being built up like a Boxer. He's being fed cans to help build up his record. Until he fights anyone remotely decent, with good wrestling, I can't believe the hype.
I think you're not able to look at these fighters in a truly objective way, possibly because of UFC bias?

I'm not usually a fan of MMA math, but ok let's play!

Max Holloway:
Max Holloway has a split decision over Leonard Garcia, now Garcia is a fun fighter but he's 18-11 (6-9 since 2009) and his most notable wins were split decisions over Nam Phan and Korean Zombie (KZ later avenged this loss), Leonard Garcia whilst a good regional level fighter who puts on exciting fights has never really looked like a fighter who would be able to go to that next level - he lost 5 consecutive UFC fights before finally being cut.

Max Holloway has a 3rd round submission over Andre Fili, like you i believe Fili has potential to do some decent things in MMA however to this point he doesn't really have any notable wins, so it's hard to gauge truly where he is at at this point, for us to claim he is anything more than UFC fodder could be hasty.

I think as of right now, it would be hard to say Max Holloway is significantly better than Ricky Rainey.

Marcus Brimage:
Similarly Brimage has a couple of decent wins over decent opponents; decisions over Hettes and Maximo Blanco (split), Hettes has a win over Nam Phan (decision).

For me to say that the difference in quality between Max Holloway, Marcus Brimage and Ricky Rainey is negligable - really isn't laughable, it's the logical conclusion a sensible person would come to when you review their records and the records of their opponents.

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What we can conclude is that striking wise, Page by virtue of looking light years better than anyone he's fought, is at the very least, again in striking terms, much much better than the cans he's crushed. The only problem is that it means he can be placed somewhere between UFC reject, to top 10 fighter, which isn't helpful. So basically let's just see what happens
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