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Fedor has an opponent

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#1 ·
And he's had ONE MMA fight 2 years ago :jaw:

The new Japanese promotion that will be holding an event on New Years Eve and will feature the return of Fedor Emelianenko is planning on holding a press conference on Thursday and the word on the street is that they’ll be officially announcing who Fedor will be fighting.

But, since the MMA media and fan base are so inpatient, we might already know who that opponent will be.

According to a report from MMAFighting, who claim to have spoken to sources close to the fight, Fedor will fight fighting Indian-Japanese heavyweight kickboxer Jaideep Singh in his return fight.

Yeah, exactly, who?

Singh is 28 years old and 40-10 (1 NC) in kickboxing, however when it comes to professional MMA bouts he only has one. One MMA fight and he’ll be facing one of the best of all time, OK.

His only MMA fight, and win, came against Alireza Tavak back in June of 2013.




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#99 ·
Sources close to Inside MMA & @BasRuttenMMA say Fedor Emelianenko will fight Tsuyoshi Kohsaka in a rubber match New Year’s Eve in Japan.

— Inside MMA (@InsideMMAaxstv) November 7, 2015
A re-rematch with 45 year old TK. He Hasn't fought in about 8 years. Why? because fedor is ducking Randy that's why.

 
#100 ·
Randy wouldn't stand a chance even if Fedor came back 300 over weight from eating pierogi , even if Fedor suddenly went blind and he had to fight randy to survive he would still win . Randy was scared when he pretended to be injured and let his boy lindland get owned and he is scared now.
 
#109 ·
I shall sit here praying Fedor decides to do something other than show up for an easy paycheck.

Fedor used to inspire people. Seeing a man like that sent back to Japan with his tail between his legs, with his criminal managers spouting wild tales of curses befalling Fedor, was almost too much.
 
#114 ·
That's a little bit of a presumption in my opinion cause prime Fedor was great. Granted he was going up against guys his size and sub pare giants but he was still the top dog in his day. Also saying he wanted to fight for Rizin because they showed him respect isn't a bad statement to me.
 
#119 ·
While i don't agree that Fedor is a sham, the guy's reputation is as inflated as it gets. He would not hold a belt in UFC in any division from middleweight and up, even if he was "Prime Fedor".

Rockhold for example would beat him at catchweight, as in him being middleweight (not his walk around weight) and Fedor at heavyweight and he would still wreck him with ease.

Against Bones it would not even be funny, he would get demolished since the guy has no quit in him.

He would be somewhere between 6 to 9 spot in each division, depending on where he fought in my book.
 
#121 · (Edited)
The argument that Fedor (or anybody) can't be the GOAT because current P4P bests are better than he is when he was in his prime are both nonsensical, and accurate.

It's nonsensical because EVERY new generation will be better than the last. The new guard beats the old guard, new fighters improve on skills and evolve beyond the old fighters. If your definition of GOAT means "the best current fighter in the world", then there will be a new GOAT every 5-6 years or whatever. If we are going to decide GOAT, then you decide it on their era, the fighters in their era, how impressive they were in their era, etc. Fedor compares very, VERY favorably to Anderson/GSP/Jones if you consider the era and how impressive he fought.

On the flip side, it is accurate to say that Fedor isn't the GOAT, because there WILL be someone better than he is (arguably there already is), and there WILL be someone better than Anderson (there already is) and GSP and some day, Jones too, and NONE of them will be the GOAT, on a technical level, as there will be new fighters, with more and better skills, who are technically superior.

The argument of "GOAT" is pretty useless all around, too many variables and on a technical level, the GOAT is the current best fighter in the world at the time of the debate, so that would be who? Jones? Maybe Robbie? Conor if he beats RDA? Then what happens in 5 years when someone has knocked Jones out, defended his title a few times? He's now the new GOAT, right? He's better than Jones fighting tougher competition than Jones did, right? It's just an unimportant argument that goes nowhere.
 
#122 ·
Totally agree with everything said. Drives me bonkers when people mention that Fedor's opponents were not of high caliber. They were the best in the world at the time.

It also seems popular amongst newer fans to claim fixed fights for Fedor. Show me an example. I have seen several fights in Pride that I thought were fixed, but never a Fedor fight. Fedor was nearly knocked out more than once, and nearly had his neck snapped in Pride. It's possible some were fixed but I just have not seen any that looked staged the way some did.



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#123 ·
Yeah, Fedor was slammed on his head, rocked, butt bombed, everything you can think of. Through all of that he never lost in Pride FC. He was certainly the greatest of the time and people need to realize that at his prime he may have been able to beat anyone in the world.
 
#127 ·
I don't think Fedor's wins have lessened over time. When you try and brake down every single opponent and their respective wins etc. then you will dilute anyone's accomplishments but Fedor still has wins over some of the greatest of all time.

I still think Fedor could have lost that Werdum and Hendo fight any day in his career. Just two very unfortunate fights for him which he didn't really look bad in. Almost consequential rather than making mistakes.

Fedor is still top 5 of all time.
 
#129 ·
Striking wise, I think Fedor has a lot more to offer than Velasquez. I also think Fedor has a lot more to offer in striking than Werdum, but the addition of Werdum's boxing is more important because it gives him many more options and could use it to set something bigger up. He obviously also has much more chances to hurt someone on the feet now too like the situation with Hunt.

EDIT: I'm talking prime Fedor. He'd surely be much slower these days.
 
#134 ·
Wait, where did it ever say he only signed one fight with Rizin and that he wasn't going for a huge run? I understand he probably is just looking to compete but that doesn't mean he can't pick up another championship. It would obviously be in Bellator or if Rizin created a heavyweight championship.
 
#138 ·
Yeah I don't argue that he's at minimum one of the greatest either because GSP and Anderson Silva also compete for that category. You can't really determine which one is better. Granted there was the possibility that the super fight might have determined it but it never happened.
 
#143 ·
@Ape City, I dunno if MMA is developing THAT fast. The overall level of talent gets better, making it harder to rise up or something, but the absolute greats I think still hold up. The only guys who wouldn't imo are jiu jitsu guys as their style is the easiest to learn defence against.

But Fedor at his prime likely beats Werdum, Rothwell, Miocic etc. just like how GSP likely beats everyone in the division, Anderson Silva likely beats most in the division etc. The more time goes on, the more we see the potential for special fighters popping up. But I'd say we'll always struggle to find a more natural fighter than Jon Jones.
 
#144 ·
@ClydebankBlitz I think it is evolving faster than any other sport is. It's just so young still, and we have seen styles change so much, so rapidly. It wasn't long ago that muay thai was the dominant striking method, wrestlers were "ruining mma" with smother techniques, and top fighters in general still had glaring holes in at least one essential aspect of MMA.

This article is pretty accurate imo:

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/12/...bson-explains-why-mma-strikings-future-is-now

...Anderson Silva-Rich Franklin I where we really sa[w] the effectiveness of that clinch range and that Thai plum being applied up against the fence to maybe like a Urijah Faber: hard level changes, wrestling feints to upward striking; to maybe a Jon Jones with dynamic spinning elbows up against the fence from a wrestling position to the dynamic kicks of Carlos Condit against GSP where GSP's exiting, thinking he was safe and Carlos was still able to find transitional long-range strikes.
 
#145 ·
I do feel it advances CRAZY fast, but not at a rate where say Jon Jones will no longer be competitive in 10 years. Hell if you check the UFC ranks, top guys 10 years ago litter every division.

Different things come in all the time which influence everything, but say you've got Conor McGregor and his movement and loose style. That's great, but the guy next to him might try that and get taken down and submitted easily. Different people connect with different styles. I'd still say maybe the most one dimensional MMA fighter in the modern game, Chael Sonnen, would be a top 10 Middleweight.

It advances very fast but I think its not advancing in that 10 years changes everything. Muhammad Ali was incredible with his movements in most of his fights...10 years later no one had his skills and abilities in that division. Boxing tends to get a little too wrapped up in the "old days" but I don't think MMA had really been completely tipped on it's head in the past 10 years or so. There are still LOADS of top wrestlers in every division who might not have the greatest striking.

So I both agree and disagree haha. I don't think a prime Chuck struggles to make it high enough in the LHW rankings. I actually believe that Tito Ortiz has a very good chance of making it in the UFC rankings (I felt for a while Tito has been underrated, his time away from UFC has been great too). We still have or have had Shogun, Little Nog, Rampage and Evans rank well at 205. The HW division is pretty crazy with the likes of Arlovski, Mir, Barnett etc. You've got Anderson, Bisping and a few other "old guard" guys who are starting to get swallowed by the Strikeforce guys. Robbie Lawler was a top early UFC guy, Nick Diaz etc. While it always advances, as is the nature of combat in this format, some people will never be able to put together something another would. Josh Barnett will never have an overhand like Roy Nelson. So some people are able to connect up their aspects in a certain way which makes them special. GSP's controlled striking and outstanding wrestling for example. Who stops that?
 
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