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The UFC lightweight division is one of the strongest in the company, it doesn't need any sorting out. You've got Frankie Edgar, Gray Maynard, BJ Penn, Kenny Florian, George Sotiropoulos, Joe Lauzon, Sean Sherk, Evan Dunham, Benson Henderson, Takanori Gomi, Anthony Pettis, Charles Oliveira, Jim Miller, Joe Stevenson, Dustin Hazelett, Jamie Varner, Donald Cerrone, Kurt Pellegrino, Clay Guida, Cole Miller, Ross Pearson, Antonio McKee and Tyson Griffin. That is one seriously stacked division. I love the UFC LW division, and the only guys I'd like to see added would be Gilbert Melendez, Eddie Alvarez, Shinya Aoki and only because I like the dude, Roger Huerta.
My point about sorting out, as in at Middle and Welter, both Silva and GSP need more competition bought in.

At light, Edgar still has Maynard, Henderson (assuming he beats Pettis), Soti and probably Dunham to beat, then perhaps Charles Oliveira down the line. So they don't desperately need either Melendez or Alvarez right now until a dominant champ has been sorted out and needs more competition. I agree, lightweight is the most stacked in the world and in the UFC right now.

They are better going after Lombard and Jacare for an opponent for Silva, nobody is left for GSP after Shields and at light-heavy and heavy, there are still a few decent match-ups to be made, though everybody would love Fedor to be bought in to fight Cain should he get past JDS.
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My point about sorting out, as in at Middle and Welter, both Silva and GSP need more competition bought in.

At light, Edgar still has Maynard, Henderson (assuming he beats Pettis), Soti and probably Dunham to beat, then perhaps Charles Oliveira down the line. So they don't desperately need either Melendez or Alvarez right now until a dominant champ has been sorted out and needs more competition. I agree, lightweight is the most stacked in the world and in the UFC right now.

They are better going after Lombard and Jacare for an opponent for Silva, nobody is left for GSP after Shields and at light-heavy and heavy, there are still a few decent match-ups to be made, though everybody would love Fedor to be bought in to fight Cain should he get past JDS.
you are correct in that Bendo, Soti and Dunham are worthy contenders and charles oliveira down the line, but the UFC wants the BEST. melendez and alvarez are potentially the best so even if the ufc has 10 lightweight contenders they need them all.

regarding jacare vs anderson i already said theyre training partners and will not fight each other. lombard on the other hand...
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Problem with Bellator is the guys who are ready to take the next step are locked into a champion clause they are too talented to get out of. I can definitely see people throwing fights eventually to escape that meagre organization.

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Problem with Bellator is the guys who are ready to take the next step are locked into a champion clause they are too talented to get out of. I can definitely see people throwing fights eventually to escape that meagre organization.
the problem with throwing fights is that not only you ruin your rep, you also get an L on your record and dana said "we dont sign fighters coming off losses" or some shit like that.

also i dont think their clause is similar to ufc clause that you cannot leave without losing the title like in the ufc, because this way nobody would sign it. if they did, they deserve to be stuck.
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regarding jacare vs anderson i already said theyre training partners and will not fight each other. lombard on the other hand...
Well they are training partners now, but I'm not sure they have said they won't fight eachother? Either way, just bring in Lombard, somebody, because the UFC middle division stinks, if Anderson handles Belfort, we are in the situation of watching rematches with guys like Nate or Okami, just like GSP vs Kos and possibly Fitch down the line. B O R I N G.

On another note, would be interesting to know how Anderson goes in grappling training VS Jacare, I imagine he gets handled pretty well.
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Well they are training partners now, but I'm not sure they have said they won't fight eachother? Either way, just bring in Lombard, somebody, because the UFC middle division stinks, if Anderson handles Belfort, we are in the situation of watching rematches with guys like Nate or Okami, just like GSP vs Kos and possibly Fitch down the line. B O R I N G.

On another note, would be interesting to know how Anderson goes in grappling training VS Jacare, I imagine he gets handled pretty well.
you are aware that okami won the first fight by dq? it would be a big rematch because anderson would like to avenge that bs L.

it doesnt matter who wins in practise, anderson can only benefit from training with the likes of jacare and the nogueiras.
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you are aware that okami won the first fight by dq? it would be a big rematch because anderson would like to avenge that bs L.

it doesnt matter who wins in practise, anderson can only benefit from training with the likes of jacare and the nogueiras.
Yes, but Okami is boring. Sorry, that may just be a personal bias, not to mention I don't think he will get past Nate.

It doesn't matter who wins in practice, I only wonder out of interest as to where Andersons grappling is at.
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Andy would destroy Lombard the guy is like 5'6" and has shit striking technique and he barely looked good grappling against a guy who is terrible at grappling. Forget that though because Nate, Okami, Vitor, Chael, Belcher, Akiyama, Bisping, and Wanderlei all tool this guy he would never get close to the belt.
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Andy would destroy Lombard the guy is like 5'6" and has shit striking technique and he barely looked good grappling against a guy who is terrible at grappling. Forget that though because Nate, Okami, Vitor, Chael, Belcher, Akiyama, Bisping, and Wanderlei all tool this guy he would never get close to the belt.
funny how you can make this assumption when he has never been stopped


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Andy would destroy Lombard the guy is like 5'6" and has shit striking technique and he barely looked good grappling against a guy who is terrible at grappling. Forget that though because Nate, Okami, Vitor, Chael, Belcher, Akiyama, Bisping, and Wanderlei all tool this guy he would never get close to the belt.
Anderson struggles against shorter guys and Lombard is 5'9". Remember Ryo Chonan? And Anderson wasn't winning that convincingly before the crazy flying scissor, infact I thought he was looisng before then.

Akiyama would tool Lombard? LOL. Wanderlei at this age, Bisping, Belcher would all struggle too.

Some of the top guys may give Lombard a tough test, but he is definately deserving of a shot at Silva given Silva has nearly cleaned out the division and nobody comes close to Lombard outside UFC (except perhaps a couple of the Strikeforce middles).
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