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UFC86 10-29-2010 02:53 PM

free lombard
 
edit: anybody else tired of bellator holding onto all the talent? hector lombard on 21 fight unbeaten streak, has 5 KO's under a minute (including 6s over Jay Silva) and just got past his biggest challenge to date and top prospect shlemenko cruising to victory.And of course eddie alvarez who is ranked top 5 in the world and puts on entertaining fights

Fine Wine 10-31-2010 04:15 AM

Yep, I would like them to take Bellator but can't see it happening anytime soon.

A bit of talent in there, but then Strikeforce has a large talent pool also.

The UFC lightweights still have a lot of sorting out to do (and in the meantime hopefully they can set up the Alvarez vs Melendez fight), so I really only want to see Lombard and Jacare move to take Anderson and then Fedor fight Cain if he beats Dos Santos.

Best welters are in UFC, best light-heavies also.

anderton46 10-31-2010 12:26 PM

Strikeforce has more relevant fighters and alot better quality. I'd rather see UFC take them over. Bellator is a great org who put on good fights and do have some great guys also.

UFC86 10-31-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Wine (Post 1294177)
Yep, I would like them to take Bellator but can't see it happening anytime soon.

A bit of talent in there, but then Strikeforce has a large talent pool also.

The UFC lightweights still have a lot of sorting out to do (and in the meantime hopefully they can set up the Alvarez vs Melendez fight), so I really only want to see Lombard and Jacare move to take Anderson and then Fedor fight Cain if he beats Dos Santos.

Best welters are in UFC, best light-heavies also.

there isnt that much sorting out to do, theyre going to transfer about 8-10 wec lightweights to ufc, but they have newcomers every year so it really doesnt change much.

regarding lightweights outside of ufc, they only need to bring Melendez and Alvarez thats it, hopefully they dont fight each other before that because one of them will lose their stock. Aoki already got tooled by Melendez. Josh Thomson was even with JZ and got beat by Melendez. Beerbohm arguably lost to Shaolin. who else we have kawajiri? basically only 2 were interested in Melendez and Alvarez.



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Originally Posted by anderton46 (Post 1294249)
Strikeforce has more relevant fighters and alot better quality. I'd rather see UFC take them over. Bellator is a great org who put on good fights and do have some great guys also.

strikeforce is not a rival to ufc like bellator is, and you know what ufc do to their enemies. strikeforce has established stars and over the hill, while bellator has prospects and thats what the ufc needs right now.

Danm2501 10-31-2010 01:58 PM

The UFC lightweight division is one of the strongest in the company, it doesn't need any sorting out. You've got Frankie Edgar, Gray Maynard, BJ Penn, Kenny Florian, George Sotiropoulos, Joe Lauzon, Sean Sherk, Evan Dunham, Benson Henderson, Takanori Gomi, Anthony Pettis, Charles Oliveira, Jim Miller, Joe Stevenson, Dustin Hazelett, Jamie Varner, Donald Cerrone, Kurt Pellegrino, Clay Guida, Cole Miller, Ross Pearson, Antonio McKee and Tyson Griffin. That is one seriously stacked division. I love the UFC LW division, and the only guys I'd like to see added would be Gilbert Melendez, Eddie Alvarez, Shinya Aoki and only because I like the dude, Roger Huerta.

UFC86 10-31-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danm2501 (Post 1294320)
The UFC lightweight division is one of the strongest in the company, it doesn't need any sorting out. You've got Frankie Edgar, Gray Maynard, BJ Penn, Kenny Florian, George Sotiropoulos, Joe Lauzon, Sean Sherk, Evan Dunham, Benson Henderson, Takanori Gomi, Anthony Pettis, Charles Oliveira, Jim Miller, Joe Stevenson, Dustin Hazelett, Jamie Varner, Donald Cerrone, Kurt Pellegrino, Clay Guida, Cole Miller, Ross Pearson, Antonio McKee and Tyson Griffin. That is one seriously stacked division. I love the UFC LW division, and the only guys I'd like to see added would be Gilbert Melendez, Eddie Alvarez, Shinya Aoki and only because I like the dude, Roger Huerta.

Hazelett, Pellegrino, Pearson will be getting pink slips VERY soon.

_RIVAL_ 10-31-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Danm2501 (Post 1294320)
The UFC lightweight division is one of the strongest in the company, it doesn't need any sorting out. You've got Frankie Edgar, Gray Maynard, BJ Penn, Kenny Florian, George Sotiropoulos, Joe Lauzon, Sean Sherk, Evan Dunham, Benson Henderson, Takanori Gomi, Anthony Pettis, Charles Oliveira, Jim Miller, Joe Stevenson, Dustin Hazelett, Jamie Varner, Donald Cerrone, Kurt Pellegrino, Clay Guida, Cole Miller, Ross Pearson, Antonio McKee and Tyson Griffin. That is one seriously stacked division. I love the UFC LW division, and the only guys I'd like to see added would be Gilbert Melendez, Eddie Alvarez, Shinya Aoki and only because I like the dude, Roger Huerta.


Antonio McKee dropped to LW?

Danm2501 10-31-2010 05:10 PM

Antonio McKee's always been a lightweight hasn't he? He's fighting Jacob Volkmann at 155 at UFC 125 anyway.

Hazelett might get cut soon, but Pellegrino and Pearson? No chance. Pellegrino is 4-1 in his last 5, with solid wins over Camoes, Neer, Emerson and Tavares; and Pearson looked awesome against Riley and Siver before running into Cole Miller. Ross Pearson is going nowhere. If Mac Danzig can keep a job in the UFC, then Ross won't be leaving anytime soon.

_RIVAL_ 10-31-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danm2501 (Post 1294472)
Antonio McKee's always been a lightweight hasn't he? He's fighting Jacob Volkmann at 155 at UFC 125 anyway.

Hazelett might get cut soon, but Pellegrino and Pearson? No chance. Pellegrino is 4-1 in his last 5, with solid wins over Camoes, Neer, Emerson and Tavares; and Pearson looked awesome against Riley and Siver before running into Cole Miller. Ross Pearson is going nowhere. If Mac Danzig can keep a job in the UFC, then Ross won't be leaving anytime soon.

For some reason I thought Antonio Mckee was a WW...:confused:

Damn Volkmann VS Mckee? Thats interesting... Volkmann hasn't had it easy in the UFC... Thiago, Kampmann, Kelly, Mckee....

UFC86 10-31-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danm2501 (Post 1294472)

Hazelett might get cut soon, but Pellegrino and Pearson? No chance. Pellegrino is 4-1 in his last 5, with solid wins over Camoes, Neer, Emerson and Tavares; and Pearson looked awesome against Riley and Siver before running into Cole Miller. Ross Pearson is going nowhere. If Mac Danzig can keep a job in the UFC, then Ross won't be leaving anytime soon.

pellegrino is gatekeeper material at best. Camoes Neer and Emerson were released by ufc for losing, and tavares is also a gatekeeper thats disappointing. he lost his last fight and i suspect he will lose his next. his wrestling is decent but thats it.

i know pearson is a countryman of yours, but he had an even match with andre winner who got dominated by lentz, got a win over riley who is kept for entertainment values, and siver who is way overrated and given easy matches because hes German. losing to cole miller cannot be good, especially since he got annihilated by efrain.


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