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Old 04-17-2011, 09:24 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm starting to suspect some of the judges of corruption or stuff like that!!!

How the hell do you give the 2nd round to Warren?! It is beyond stupid.
Exactly. And I mean that literally, it literally is beyond stupidity.

I'm getting sick and tired of this ridiculous sense of optimism from MMA fans, that they won't even dare think their beloved sport has any fixed fights. Like it is just impossible and even at the absolute worst, we should just write it off as incompetence.

Horseshit. Absolute horseshit.

All the excuses in the world can't make up for the fact that my grandmother, literally, my grandmother would've scored the 2nd round for Galvao, despite knowing nothing of the sport and not liking fighting in general.

It's as if we have some off idea that literally every person in the world that watched that fight can judge it properly except the three guys that are licensed to do so. As if we have some idea that the "incompetent" judges are the least qualified guys on the planet and have never watched the sport or know nothing of it when they are filling out these cards.

As if in Penn-Edgar I, Douglas Crosby a mainstay of the NJSAC for YEARS, suddenly became "incompetent" with his 50-45 scorecard that just so happened to be in favour of a New Jersey native.

Yes, incompetence.

Give me a ****ing break.

The fix was in, and it makes me quite sick.
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Old 04-18-2011, 07:38 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Exactly. And I mean that literally, it literally is beyond stupidity.

I'm getting sick and tired of this ridiculous sense of optimism from MMA fans, that they won't even dare think their beloved sport has any fixed fights. Like it is just impossible and even at the absolute worst, we should just write it off as incompetence.

Horseshit. Absolute horseshit.

All the excuses in the world can't make up for the fact that my grandmother, literally, my grandmother would've scored the 2nd round for Galvao, despite knowing nothing of the sport and not liking fighting in general.

It's as if we have some off idea that literally every person in the world that watched that fight can judge it properly except the three guys that are licensed to do so. As if we have some idea that the "incompetent" judges are the least qualified guys on the planet and have never watched the sport or know nothing of it when they are filling out these cards.

As if in Penn-Edgar I, Douglas Crosby a mainstay of the NJSAC for YEARS, suddenly became "incompetent" with his 50-45 scorecard that just so happened to be in favour of a New Jersey native.

Yes, incompetence.

Give me a ****ing break.

The fix was in, and it makes me quite sick.
When i say corruption i mean, judges being involved in gambling.

It's easy to imagine judges (or someone close to them) having placed a lot of money on a certain fighter to win a certain fight.

And if the fight doesn't go the way it *needs* to, they can always *adjust* the end result, by scoring the fight the way they want to.

Like this one: the odds for Warren were low, but it was considered a safe bet = easy money.
The fight didn't go the way some thought...so...why not make some adjustments so the end result is *the right one*?!

Absoulute disgust!
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Old 04-18-2011, 07:44 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Ok, I don't think this has anything to do with gambling. Even if it does the worst thing that can really happen is that the commission changes it to a no contest cause both fighters went out there and gave it their all. We may or may not find out if this was gambling in the following weeks but I highly doubt it.
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:22 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I don't think there was any gambling, I think they just suck!
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:48 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I don't think there was any gambling, I think they just suck!
i agree...along with wrestling there is much too much emphasis place on aggression by the judges. i love aggression but some of the more effective fighters do so while letting their opponent continually walk into punishment.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:12 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Another problem is that the sport hasn't been regulated long enough for there to be experienced enough judges. This sport hasn't even been regulated for ten years. Judges in this sport are still new to the material so it's hard to be totally accurate.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:46 PM   #37 (permalink)
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When i say corruption i mean, judges being involved in gambling.

It's easy to imagine judges (or someone close to them) having placed a lot of money on a certain fighter to win a certain fight.

And if the fight doesn't go the way it *needs* to, they can always *adjust* the end result, by scoring the fight the way they want to.

Like this one: the odds for Warren were low, but it was considered a safe bet = easy money.
The fight didn't go the way some thought...so...why not make some adjustments so the end result is *the right one*?!

Absoulute disgust!

I don't think it had to do with gambling.

All three judges involved in tonights show were complete rookies.

Along with a piss poor, bare minimum commission in Arizona, and Bellator can easily economically manipulate any result they want.

This commission was not real commission, Arizona I believe doesn't have one. They have a boxing commission, not sure if it applies to MMA.

But this specific commission was some small Indian reservation commission.
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Yeah, I don't think it had to do with gambling either. The poor judging probably did have to do with inexperience. Arizona's commission is really in its' infancy so that probably had to do with it.
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It happened and crap happens. There is absolutely nothing we can do about that now. So why are we still talking about this?
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