All good points, but those losses were a long time ago now (and were they in a ring, i.e. ropes? Much easier to take somebody down than in a cage). Nate isn't an easy guy to just dump on his azz, plus he can submit you and he has decent stand-up and could be very dangerous to Askren anytime this is on the feet (see Maia or Kampmann).
Also, you don't loose muscle mass to cut weight, absolutely not. That has a devestating effect on you. You diet very carefully for this and ensure the right intake of foods and portion sizes. It is more about cutting water to make weight. As long as you cut weight right (and perhaps Nate may not be able to make 170 without being too drained), it will always give you a relative advantage over a naturally smaller guy (hence people do it).
As for Sonnen, watching his old fights, his wrestling was average compared to how it is now. Some mention the roids (which may be true), or perhaps he has just adapted it better to MMA over the years. Either way, his wreslting now is freaky in MMA and a lot different to when he came into the sport green as a wrestler which is where Askren is at now.
Last edited by Fine Wine; 07-10-2011 at 07:05 AM.