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post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-24-2011, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MRBRESK View Post
that is far from conclusive.

I'd say the history of heart condition in his family is conclusive.
Other way around, saying "oh I had heart problems that run in my family" is far from conclusive, having the most common serious sign of steroid abuse is.

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"Likely", my ass. You ain't his doctor, so give it a rest. Unless you got some first-hand knowledge on his situation... then ya gotta dish.

Just cuz he comes off as a total douche don't make him the be-all-end-all of every negative stereotype you wish him to be.

For all we know, there's more to the overall health/genetics side than we caught from this article alone. That's why you see a doctor when your ill... and not a bookie.

Speculation is what leads to rumours, which lead to THIS-guy-and-THAT-guy-took-PEDs... so-that-OTHER-guy-mighta/musta/definitely-did... blah-blah-blah...

Falcao's no class-act, but he don't deserve this kinda crap from those who don't know him while he's in a life-or-death situation. I'm sure his family's worried sick about him right now. Just like your family or mine would be if such a fate were to befall one of us.
He beat a woman, call me old fashioned but when you lower yourself to that point you don't get the benefit of the doubt for anything. And if see a guy in the street holding a bag of money wearing a ski mask and rthe bank down the street has just been robbed,
I don't conclusive evidence,
I don't need to have seen it

But maybe you guys are right, maybe this lowlife that abuses women does deserve the benefit of the doubt. You can give ti to him, but I won't.
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post #12 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-24-2011, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by John8204 View Post
This guy has a long history of being dirty, he was arrested for beating a woman, he cheats in fights, he ignores the officials, and now based on the fact that he's 30 and he had a heart attack he's likely a juicer, a coke abuser or both.

Normally you can give a guy a benefit of the doubt, and with a number of fighters I do.

This man is a poster boy for everything this sport isn't supposed to be. I don't root for anyone to die, but what he's done and how he's behaved has given ammunition to every MMA critic around the world.
Back this statement up with facts or put a zipper on that mouthpiece of yours. Speculation and lies have no home on this forum.

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow View Post
Back this statement up with facts or put a zipper on that mouthpiece of yours. Speculation and lies have no home on this forum.
Well we can't have an autopsy on him due him being y'know alive. But maybe your right, maybe it wasn't drugs that caused his heart attack. I mean when has an athlete ever died of a heart attack

Matthew Dear (teenager)
Len Bias (22)
Steve Bechler (23)
Jesse Marunde (27)
Art Barr (28)
Larry Gordon (28)
Lance Cade (29)
Trent Acid (29)
Rick McGraw (30)
David Croudip (30)
Andreas Munzer (31)
Buzz Sawyer (32)
Test (Andrew Martin) (33)
Eddie Gilbert (33)
Dave Waymer (33)
Mohammed "Momo" Benaziza (33)
BJ Johns (34)
Jerry Tuite (35)
Eddie Fatu (36)
Eddie Guerrero (38)
Davey Boy Smith (39)
Rick Rude (40)
Ken Caminiti (41)
Lyle Alzado (43)
Bam Bam Bigelow (45)
Hercules Hernandez (47)

But I'm sure the guy that has gone into three documented and well publicized documented instances of rage was completely sober.

Just cause something walks like a duck and talks like a duck if it say's it's a pigeon we take it's word for it.
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Properly dislike the guy, but wouldn't wish that on him. But I do agree with John that an athletic seemingly fit THIRTY year old having a heart attack is more than likely down to substance abuse.
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post #15 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-24-2011, 10:43 AM
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Unfortunately, I don't dabble in 'likely'. I've had two friends, both athletic, pass from heart attacks at the age of 22 and 24 respectively, and neither came down to drug use. While I'd say it's certainly fair of John to speculate about steroids and so forth, it can only be deemed as just that... speculation.

Hope he recovers. As much as I think he's an arse myself, I'd not wish this upon him. I'd not mind seeing him take a butt kicking mind you, lol.
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post #16 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-24-2011, 11:07 AM
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UFC veteran? Hardly.

Wouldn't wish this upon any one.
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