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Iron Man is solid

Posted 05-04-2008 at 04:44 PM by jasvll
Well, I saw Iron Man (technically gold-palladium alloy man) on Friday and I have to say, it was downright amazing. When it was announced a couple of years ago, I wrote it off as a harbinger of death for the comic book genre, until I heard that Robert Downey Jr. was cast in iron (apologies). That opened my mind up a bit, not only because of the talent he brings to the table, but because the fact that he was sought out suggested this was serious business, not a cash grab. It’s turning out to be both (in a good way).

Now, with the benefit of having actually seen the movie; I am going to talk about it.

The acting was solid, with the brand name cast taking their work seriously. There’s always a risk with A-list actors in genre movies feeling the need to wink at the audience, letting them know that this was more about the paycheck than the material. There’s none of that here, despite the quarter dozen oscar nominated performers in the film. I was excited to see the director, John Favreau (Vince Vaughn’s buddy!), show up in the movie. He had more than a cameo but he didn’t pull a Lady in the Water. If M. Night Shyamalan directed Iron Man, I imagine he’d be behind the armor more than the camera (cheap shots aside, The Happening looks to have potential).

The story was strong, with good to great characterizations for almost everyone involved. Tony Stark’s reason for becoming Iron Man not only made sense but felt inevitable. His skill set was presented in a way that made even his early design work in an Afghani cave seem plausible, which was probably the hardest part of the story to swallow. The take your interval side of me was glad to see them raise the issue of ‘legitimate’ arms dealing, although they didn’t take it beyond the actions of individual businessmen. They defanged the Afghani tribesman, too, turning them into an odd coalition of Arab, Soviet, and Mongolian warlords, rather than making them an Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda clone. I suppose he was one cave over.

Another interesting aspect of the story is Iron Man’s moral code. He has no qualms about killing those that are asking for it, and he does it with style. That, along with early Tony Stark’s liberal moral code (the man has lady skills, period), made me wonder if it took an edit or two to get the MPAA to hold back on the market altering R.

Finally, you can’t review this movie without talking about the humor. It is incredibly funny, with Robert Downey Jr.’s quick witted delivery put into overdrive. Who knows what was improvised or what was written, but there looked to be a lot of both, and every bit of it worked. I won’t ruin any of it here, other than the gold-palladium alloy line I opened with (I’m as bad as Carlos Mencia! [explicit]).

Speaking of special effects (play along), they were more than impressive; I imagine you would have to either be in the effects business or obsessed with it to know how each effect shot was done or more importantly, whether or not it was even an effects shot. I really liked how they weren’t afraid to ‘damage’ Iron Man’s armor. It really sold the idea that this was real.

The music wasn’t bad, but it felt like a video game score, functioning more as ambience rather than a work that stands on its own as the musical story of Iron Man. That seems to be a long term trend for movies for the most part, though. Spider-man, Batman Begins, and the Hulk all had great scores, but unless you’re a music nut like myself, you don’t come away with a clear theme to hum like you do with say, William’s Superman or Elfman’s Batman . Of course, the newer comic book movies have more conflicted heroes, filled with self-doubt and moral struggle, so it makes sense that the music reflects that with more subtlety and ambiguity. With Iron Man, though, it was clear that Stark knew who he was once he made the decision to go metal, so I would have liked a more heroic melody, rather than just the rhythmic chug of a distorted guitar.

The final fight was a bit anti-climactic, but only relative to how exciting everything else was. Speaking of endings, be sure to stay through the credits to see what the future holds for Iron Man. I’ll give you a hint, it may involve saving airline passengers from an army of snakes, but let’s hope not.

Iron Man is a great launch pad for the summer movie season, and if the previews of The Dark Knight and The Incredible Hulk that came before the movie are any indication, comic book movies aren’t going anywhere anytime soon (that’s a good thing).

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As I stated in your earlier Summer movies blog, Iron Man had promising early reviews. Rottentomaoes indicates 94% of online movie critics enjoyed the film. That's a high number, especially for a comic book movie. I don't think it's the greatest comic book movie, however. I argue that Batman Begins takes tha spot. Iron Man, the Spiderman movies, and the second X-men movie are close seconds.

I definitely agree the score was okay, but I still loved how they ended the movie with that Sabbath Iron Man. Good point about the suit's vulnerability to damage -- it made me think that he's going to have to make many spare suits. You're on the mark when you said the final fight was anti-climactic. One reason is because Iron Man deserves to face off with a more deserving and worthy nemesis -- the final villain was ...well...meh.

I liked he action scenes, but they weren't the best I've scene because Favreau really isn't the best action effects director. Did any of the Iron man flight scenes feel as powerful and thrilling as the scene where Superman saved that airliner in Superman Returns? I'm not saying the action effects scenes were bad, but they weren't the best. But what Favreau does wonderfully is focusing and centering on the charaters and story, which is what separates good comic book movies from bad. Favreau also had to minimize the action because the first movie is the origin movie -- that explains why we wait so long into the movie to finally see the Iron Man himself. Christopher Nolan did same thing with the Batman in Batman Begins, and that's how it should be. We must connect with the man behind the mask first in order to connect with the mask.


Superman, Batman, and Spiderman are A list comic stars. Iron Man is a B list star. You know this movie is good when this B list star made more money and received better reviews than some of the A lister's movies.

I didn't stay for the end of the credits, so I guess I'll have to see the movie again.



PS - I'm an Arab Egyptian, and the Afghani terrorist with the full beard was no Afghani. He spoke Egyptan Arabic, so he was Egyptian.
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Posted 05-04-2008 at 09:16 PM by tecnotut tecnotut is offline
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The Rottentomatoes review is what surprised me the most. 91% with the top critics is extremely high, and considering Batman Begins is, i believe, 63%, that's pretty amazing to me. I expected it to be in the 70 percentile.
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Posted 05-05-2008 at 08:19 PM by GMW GMW is offline
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I think that a lot of the critics were happy to see Robert Downey Jr. become what he was meant to be. This role was a really good fit for him if you look at how he's overcome his past to finally become the superstar his talent deserved.

Oh, and tecnotut, the guy was Afghani in the same sense that Sayid from Lost is Iraqi (played by a British born actor of Indian heritage). The fact that he was actually speaking a real language is a step in the right direction.
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Posted 05-05-2008 at 10:02 PM by jasvll jasvll is offline
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jasvll, I hear ya on the Afghani. I was thinking exactly that: at least it's a real language spoken that sounds Afghani! I was just happy to understand what he was saying.
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Posted 05-07-2008 at 09:52 AM by tecnotut tecnotut is offline
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Actualllyyy, they were speaking Urdu (pakistani) and the guy who helped RDJ is persian (in real life)
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Posted 05-07-2008 at 10:18 PM by plazzman plazzman is offline
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The man with the shaved head and full beard was not speaking Urdu. I wouldn't recognize Urdu if I heard it, but I do know when someone is speaking Arabic.
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