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"And this is coming from a ___ fan".. SHUT UP!

Posted 12-10-2007 at 07:14 PM by plazzman
Yeah you all know, when someone is talking about how a fighter was getting beat, but to cover their ass they automatically say, "Person A really sucked last night, and believe me, this is coming from a person A nut-hugger"

We get it, your critisizing a fighter, you dont have to cover your ass and say you like them to avoid people calling you biased.

I saw it after the Shogun/Forrest Fight, saw it after Crocop fight, and been seeing it after Guida/Huerta fight.

Be a man and state your opinion, be unbiased, and analyze something properly, if you can back your shit up, theres no need to cover your ass.

just thought Id vent in this superscrumtelascent blog thingy.
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Well shit, I've done that before. Covering your ass avoids hundreds of troglodytes.
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 07:25 PM by Damone Damone is offline
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I've done that often but only when I get flammed for being a ____ Hater. Usually it used to be for BJ Penn but now it's more for Anderson. If someone starts telling me I hate a fighter I will say I'm a fan of them.
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 08:59 PM by bbjd7 bbjd7 is offline
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Lol, bbjd7, I wonder who you could be referring to =P.

Anyways, yeah, I think I've done it before but I don't just start like that because it sounds fake. But if I'm being flamed for whatever reason I'll point out who I'm a fan of if its relevant.
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 09:40 PM by GMW GMW is offline
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I know I understand when its completely neccessary, but when someones in an argument, its like its mandatory that they state it or else their whole argument fails.
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 10:20 PM by plazzman plazzman is offline
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Now that I think about it, I do that shit quite a bit.

Oh no, I'm an ass coverer!
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 10:33 PM by Damone Damone is offline
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Damone I actually dont see it alot from you. More from the newer guys.

Everyone knows who you like and who you support, so its all understandable.
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 10:37 PM by plazzman plazzman is offline
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Ah okay, plazzman.

Seems like some of the newer guys get butthurt over some comments. It's like you can't say that Shogun looked horrible against Forrest, or else the troglodytes will come out and make it seem like you are bashing Shogun and hating him. Same with Fedor. The only guy that is bulletproof is Bas Rutten.
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 11:03 PM by Damone Damone is offline
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Yes, good example, the Shogun fight. Its like if your saying Shogun looked like crap, and got completely worked by the better man, you have to start it by saying "9/10 Shogun would have won" and end it off with "But this is coming from a Shogun fan"

I dont know if Im saying this the wrong way or how your taking this Damone, Im just super swamped with essays, but this really irked me.
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 11:11 PM by plazzman plazzman is offline
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I can't say anything about Shogun anymore. If I defend him, I'm simply a nuthugger, if I say his boxing isn't great, I just hate him and hes overrated.
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 11:36 PM by GMW GMW is offline
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It is getting crazy with Shogun. I mean people refuse to see a middle ground with him. He isn't a good striker but he's not terrible. He is outstanding on the ground. If you say he is a decent striker you hate Shogun. If you say he is great on the ground you are a nuthugger.

Also it seems like Shogun's flaws are attacked far more than other fighters. I mean Shogun's stand up isn't good but it's better than Jardine's ground game, and Liddell's ground game, And it's on par with Machida's finishing skills, Rashad's finishing skills, and Tito's stand up.

I mean Shogun ain't perfect but he's never been Knocked out while he's been beaten standing the fact he gassed caused him to lose the Griffin fight much more than his stand up. Forrest might have been ahead but it was close until Shogun gassed and basically did nothing but roll into punches. Shogun has below average punching but that is only one skill he lacks yet now he is terrible because of it.
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Posted 12-10-2007 at 11:54 PM by bbjd7 bbjd7 is offline
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True, its pretty apparent that Shogun has shitty punches, his kicks and knees are fine, but his punching is awry. But I haven't really seen that be a major factor in his fights. Shit, didn't he KO Abidi and Overeem?

And thats the thing with fighters that attain "Holy" status. They are perched up so high that it is easy for anyone to pick out flaws about them, as opposed to a fighter that isn't popular and isn't as good, people just don't care.

Its like Hollywood Celebs, the more famous they get, the easier it is to critique them.

Now I was never a big Shogun fan, I respected and recognize what hes done, but I just never went ape shit over him. Im really in the middle about him, hes just a really good fighter to me, just not a big fan. But there are those that either hate him, or love him. And apparently its forbidden to love or hate.
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Posted 12-11-2007 at 12:03 AM by plazzman plazzman is offline
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Loving or hating fighters is more than ok as long as you do it objectively and with reason. I just hate it when people pick fighters to win or lose based on whether or not they like them, rather than the match up in front of them.
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Posted 12-11-2007 at 12:11 AM by kds13 kds13 is offline
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Honestly I pick Paulo Filho to win over the majority of MW's out there and I don't like him at all. If you can't pick w/o bias or admit that you are picking with Bias. Like if Shogun faces Machida I will pick Shogun even though I will admit that smart money is on Machida. This judging fighters based on how much you like them is a joke.
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Posted 12-11-2007 at 12:36 AM by bbjd7 bbjd7 is offline
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That is all over the forum bud and will never end. I try to tell it like it is. Thats the point of view I try to post with, granted I tend to know more information about my favorite fighters.

Nice post
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Posted 12-11-2007 at 12:04 PM by Sterling Sterling is offline
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Idd, it's annoying. If I make a comment about a fighter or a fight I try my best toback it up with some analysis and not some cruddy "get out clause". I ain't covering my ass, you can smell my shit and like it. ;p
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Posted 12-17-2007 at 04:12 PM by Cartheron Cartheron is offline
 

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