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That's even worse that my internet, which is saying something. Diablo 3 took me about 3 hours, which is still rubbish.

I assume you live in a rural area? We always get shafted by internet companies Just not worth their time to fit fiber optic.
How big is the D2 beta file?


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3GB or so. I get around 300kb/s max, it blows.
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3GB or so. I get around 300kb/s max, it blows.
Yeah that sounds like it would suck. Especially when it's something you really want to get to.


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If I or my kid wanted to learn code what language should i start with. ...as in easiest to learn. Is small basic worth the time?
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If I or my kid wanted to learn code what language should i start with. ...as in easiest to learn. Is small basic worth the time?
Are you trying to learn to code in general or do something specific?


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If I or my kid wanted to learn code what language should i start with. ...as in easiest to learn. Is small basic worth the time?
Any programming language is worth learning...
The semantics you learn from one... is applicable (some to a lesser/greater degree) for other languages... just using a different syntax.

I started with assembly... then moved to c/scheme(!)/fortran(!)/basic... then java/c++/objective-c/swift

imho, start with an easy language.. have fun, make things... when u want to start making moar complicated things, you will find shortcomings in the easy/high level language... then u move to moar complicated ones
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If I or my kid wanted to learn code what language should i start with. ...as in easiest to learn. Is small basic worth the time?
For anything specifically? Do you want to just get introduced to it or do you have anything you want to create or build?

Probably the easiest entry into code is starting with basic HTML. A combination of HTML and BB Code from websites like this and Bebo helped me learn the idea of writing in a way that doesn't actually make sense. This isn't how a sentence works in English, but you understand that [B] actually means something. The most important thing about HTML is it is a massive and simple introduction to learning about proof reading and avoiding mistakes. You WILL lose that /, it's a fact, but it's easy to fix those mistakes.

HTML being "code" is a fairly loose word but it's very easy to learn and is good for clicking your mind in that mentality. Plus you get a pretty visual reward for everything you do. I'm going to start doing Code Academy again and make my own site over the next few weeks.

If you want to get more into the programming side of things, I'd recommend C++. C++ doesn't look like it's going to collapse any time in the near future unlike things like Java which has pretty much faded away now. You don't want to put in the time to learn something which will barely be used down the line (probably like Python).

So if you want something very very basic but a good introduction (plus the most useful if you don't have any big plans) - HTML (and CSS).

If you plan on getting into programming and being a little bit more complex (without going off into the deep end) - C++

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Thanks for the good answers y'all
I'm trying to encourage one of my kids to learn this. She was pretty excited by the idea but the official microsoft tutorial for small basic bored her to death and now we're right at that line where if I push her I will just turn her against the idea. She's still young enough that she always wants to do what daddy's doing so daddy is going to learn to code. Small basic seemed like an easy place to start but it's very limited. I was wondering if I should just jump right into something more useful.

Since I posted my question I found codeacademy,codeschool, code.org and a dozen others.
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Code Academy I believe is the most simple and effective for making websites.

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Thanks for the good answers y'all
I'm trying to encourage one of my kids to learn this. She was pretty excited by the idea but the official microsoft tutorial for small basic bored her to death and now we're right at that line where if I push her I will just turn her against the idea. She's still young enough that she always wants to do what daddy's doing so daddy is going to learn to code. Small basic seemed like an easy place to start but it's very limited. I was wondering if I should just jump right into something more useful.

Since I posted my question I found code academy,codeschool, code.org and a dozen others.
I'd encourage her to learn C#, of the languages I've learned and forgotten over the years I found C# to be the most interesting. Theres loads of good beginners books with interesting little projects like building calculators etc.

But as others said it depends largely on what she wants to do. But if she just wants to learn a language then C# is imo the best one to start with.

Those online code schools mostly teach web languages.

Oh, avoid the Apple language Objective C unless she has a Mac and really wants to develop for Apple products. Developing apps for apple devices is by far the worst coding experience I've had.

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