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post #11 of 35 (permalink) Old 06-11-2012, 07:59 PM
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That's our problem, we can't get along, so we still have to evolve as people to even begin to think about constructing something that can go a million times faster than the speed of light. As humans, could we even sustain that kind of speed without literally puking our guts out?

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We would be very ignorant to believe that there are no other planets that can hold life, I just don't think any planet has enough resources to be able to fuel a voyage between solar systems.

Although the US Government has recorded several UFO sightings, some of which have since been wiped from history, and if there were other lifeforms on Earth, who's to say we are even capable of seeing them? Or even them seeing us? It's possible that human beings and an alien race have always co-existed, we just operate in a completely different way and don't effect eachother. Maybe that is the reason for ghost sightings?

I think that if Aliens were to colonise Earth before we reached the technological advancement to be able to colonise other planets and visit other galaxies then we'd most definitely be the inferior race on Earth, and most likely hunted, eaten and enslaved. We'd be treated in the same way that we've treated all inferior creatures on Earth, and who's to say we don't deserve it?

Sorry, i originally wrote the first paragraph but I got a little crazy after reading the rest of the thread.


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That's our problem, we can't get along, so we still have to evolve as people to even begin to think about constructing something that can go a million times faster than the speed of light. As humans, could we even sustain that kind of speed without literally puking our guts out?
200 years ago nobody thought it was possible to travel 50 mph without dying.. In 2004 the X-43 reached 7000 mph.







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We're actually one step closer to get in contact with possible lifeforms in outer space: Voyager 1 is about to leave our solar system these days. (Ok, it will probably need a million years to reach any other system which could contain life supporting planets, but at least now we have the proof that we can build technology to travel to outer space )


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We would be very ignorant to believe that there are no other planets that can hold life, I just don't think any planet has enough resources to be able to fuel a voyage between solar systems.
Actually the fuel should not be the problem, because the voyage is in vacuum which means there is no resistance that slows down the vessel once it has reached it's traveling speed. I just recently realized and thought about the fun fact that basically in all Sci-Fi movies you see the spaceships with their engines on while that wouldn't be necessary unless they want to change speed or direction.

Achieving a reasonable speed for interstellar travel is much more of a problem.

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There are animals who are faster than 50mph with just their muscle force. People would have just needed to look at these to know that you don't die at that speed. A space shuttle when reaching orbital speed has about 7700 m/s which is about 17000 mph. It's not the speed that is dangerous, but the acceleration.

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We're actually one step closer to get in contact with possible lifeforms in outer space: Voyager 1 is about to leave our solar system these days. (Ok, it will probably need a million years to reach any other system which could contain life supporting planets, but at least now we have the proof that we can build technology to travel to outer space )




Actually the fuel should not be the problem, because the voyage is in vacuum which means there is no resistance that slows down the vessel once it has reached it's traveling speed. I just recently realized and thought about the fun fact that basically in all Sci-Fi movies you see the spaceships with their engines on while that wouldn't be necessary unless they want to change speed or direction.

Achieving a reasonable speed for interstellar travel is much more of a problem.



There are animals who are faster than 50mph with just their muscle force. People would have just needed to look at these to know that you don't die at that speed. A space shuttle when reaching orbital speed has about 7700 m/s which is about 17000 mph. It's not the speed that is dangerous, but the acceleration.
I heard the same. i'm not an expert on astrophysics but the acceleration puts on a burdening force on your body. Once you reach that speed you want to go at, it feels pretty smooth.

However, there's one thing we are all forgetting which is light speed traveling relativity. Assuming Einstein was correct in his original statement, even if we discover how to travel at the speed of light, it might take like thousands of years to get to the said planet we are trying to go to.

It's proven there are planets like Earth that possess lifeforms... but again, speed relativity. What we see in the telescopes could be something from a thousand years ago. So even if other planets out there harbored life at one point, who knows if it still exists? Earth COULD be the last one "alive."

I'd say it'll take us maybe one generation's lifetime (50-70 years) to discover how to travel into other galaxies. Remember how they promised personal jet packs by the 70s and flying De'Lorean's by 2000? Things always get delayed.
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Did any of you read the article about how neutrinos appeared to travel faster than speed of light?
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I heard the same. i'm not an expert on astrophysics but the acceleration puts on a burdening force on your body. Once you reach that speed you want to go at, it feels pretty smooth.

However, there's one thing we are all forgetting which is light speed traveling relativity. Assuming Einstein was correct in his original statement, even if we discover how to travel at the speed of light, it might take like thousands of years to get to the said planet we are trying to go to.

It's proven there are planets like Earth that possess lifeforms... but again, speed relativity. What we see in the telescopes could be something from a thousand years ago. So even if other planets out there harbored life at one point, who knows if it still exists? Earth COULD be the last one "alive."

I'd say it'll take us maybe one generation's lifetime (50-70 years) to discover how to travel into other galaxies. Remember how they promised personal jet packs by the 70s and flying De'Lorean's by 2000? Things always get delayed. LOLZ!!!
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Did any of you read the article about how neutrinos appeared to travel faster than speed of light?
That is some pretty deep stuff. It's true when we peer into the images of the telescopes we're actually looking back at millions or billions of years ago. How trippy is that...

If you guys have a moment I invite you to check out one of the coolest videos. It puts you into a trance.


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That is some pretty deep stuff. It's true when we peer into the images of the telescopes we're actually looking back at millions or billions of years ago. How trippy is that...

If you guys have a moment I invite you to check out one of the coolest videos. It puts you into a trance.

I love watching those star-gazing videos like you posted. Every little speck of light is essentially a star just like our sun and while most of them do not have planets like Earth, there are "recorded" thousands of planets just like Earth. In fact, they said Earth was the smallest of the many they found and that Earth was the most abundant in terms of liquid water whereas other planets might hold more of liquid gas or something like that. I forget the exact article I read this and there's probably no way I can pull this up.

It's crazy, isn't it? I don't fully understand how lightspeed works but if it's in any way the sci-fi's depict it as, there's probably no way we can get to other stars without accepting the fact whoever is leaving to "colonize" will forever leave Earth (because of speed relativity, time on Earth would pass about thousands of years by the time you reach the nearest solar system.)

It's just like that Halo 3 commercial. You ever wonder what's out there? And how can something so natural be so... I guess the best word for it would be mesmerizing. It would be kind of "arrogant" to assume we're the only life form out here. Hell, even the Vatican is funding research to see whether or not the biblical God for Christians are actually aliens. Kinda makes sense when reading some Bible passages that try to depict what God looks like. Ever read/watch book/documentary called Chariots of the Gods? I don't believe in it but it sounds like the most reasonable explanation for God and aliens. No disrespect meant to any religious people out there.
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There's a lot of speculation of how aliens or extra-terrestials could actually be extra-dimensional entities, meaning they can travel across the different dimensions of the universe. AKA we might not even see them and they can be standing right next to us. This doesn't sound too far-fetched if you take into consideration other life forms outside our solar system is completely different from our humanoid, defined form of being. This is probably the ganja/alcohol talking but still a cool concept to consider. I'm just worried other life forms outside our solar system could be far more violent than we are and more warmongering than anything we ever known.

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That video makes me glad I live out in the country like I do. There is no light from the cities to block out the stars. But to the question yes I believe there are planets out there like our own. Will we ever get to see them? Not in my life time (JMO) I think if we do in any time in the near future it will be because they (as in the people/inhabitants) will give us the means to do so.



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Simply put, I think you would have to be very ignorant if you don't think there is other intelligent life in the universe given its infinite size...
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Simply put, I think you would have to be very ignorant if you don't think there is other intelligent life in the universe given its infinite size...
More arrogant than ignorant. Majority of the people on this planet are fairly ignorant about the universe and the way space works; myself included. And by ignorant i mean we have no damn clue about anything haha.
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