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**Davisty69** · 04-10-2011, 01:44 PM

It may be a term that was invented by the religious right, but it still denotes a God with certain characteristics... particularly the characteristics the "Problem of Evil" uses as its core arguments.

Honestly, I don't give two shits if the religious right invented it because it has become a standard definitive term in philosophy of religion because it so clearly defines one particular version of God.

**IronMan** · 04-10-2011, 02:00 PM

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It may be a term that was invented by the religious right, but it still denotes a God with certain characteristics... particularly the characteristics the "Problem of Evil" uses as its core arguments.

Honestly, I don't give two shits if the religious right invented it because it has become a standard definitive term in philosophy of religion because it so clearly defines one particular version of God.

The problem, though, is that it doesn't. The version of God espoused by many (both historical and contemporary) Jewish theologians distances itself from the problem of evil often by eschewing both the necessity of compassion and "omnipotence."

Keep in mind the word "omnipotence" is a Greek word, not a Hebrew one, and so it's not a concept that the Jews were aware of. Moreover, there's very little support for it in the text, and it's fairly easy to find counterfactuals in the [Jewish] Bible that don't support it.

The problem is that it puts Jewish theologians in the position of defending an image of God that the Christians inherit from Plato and Aristotle, which they have no desire to do.

**Davisty69** · 04-10-2011, 02:02 PM

Ok, I see what you are saying. How about Christian God and that's it. Damn me for trying to pull the Jews into more crap they have nothing to do with

**hadoq** · 04-11-2011, 03:16 AM

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Do you mean to say that a child who dies from dehydration induced by diarrhea has to do so to test our faith? Or a child who dies from progeria? Or a child who is born with his heart outside of his body?

Actually, even tho I find this horrible and hurtful (the death of a child that is, not your message), I think this is a part of life, and not necessarily evil "per se".
It's more down to our relationship with death and how we deal with it (which is "fine" by me), but in other cultures, death is not a bad thing, nor good for that matter, it's just the end of a cycle

Semms I've got "half off topic" here sorry

I'll keep reading and see if I can catch up

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