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Wanderlei Silva 12 25.53%
Mirko CroCop 16 34.04%
Antonio Noguiero 10 21.28%
Josh Barnett 9 19.15%
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Old 07-21-2006, 07:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Fedors systimatic destruction of defences means he would beat Barnett at his own game.

Nog couldn't submit him-
Mirko couldn't kick him hard enough-
Randleman couldn't break his neck-

How exactly does JB beat him? Get him on the ground? Fedor is 95% as dangerous from the bottom as he is from the top, ask Coleman. Nog tried dozens of submissions and failed, only to get the patented G&P launched at him. Strike with him? Mirko got countered every time he threw a shot. Mirko>Josh in the striking game. It's really hard to imagine anyone having the ability to beat Fedor. Any style, any time, he just crushes it!

The only realistic shot at beating him is Mirko, if he figures a way to get a powerful highkick in there, thats about it.
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Old 07-21-2006, 08:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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At this point Fedor is so good the only person who can beat him, is him. I think it is going to take him making a mistake and someone being good enough to capitalize on it, and Fedor doesn't make mistakes very often...
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Old 07-24-2006, 10:15 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i think the match to watch is silva crocop..i dont see any way that barnett beats nog..i just dont see it
In an interview, Cro Cop said that he thinks Barnett can be Nog:

MCC: barnett could suprise minotauro, and i'll beat silva for sure

Source: http://mma.blog.hr/arhiva-2006-07.html#1621351156

A guy that's faced him thinks he can beat him and I think that speaks highly of Barnett's abilities and Crop Cop's respect of them. It also makes me think Barnett can beat Cro Crop as well. Also, Barnett has improved his training (He's not coming off of wrestling matches and fighting people), he's been training with Erik Paulson and sparring with Rampage and it's obviously been paying off considering the quick work he made of Hunt.


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Fedors systimatic destruction of defences means he would beat Barnett at his own game.

Nog couldn't submit him-
Mirko couldn't kick him hard enough-
Randleman couldn't break his neck-

How exactly does JB beat him? Get him on the ground? Fedor is 95% as dangerous from the bottom as he is from the top, ask Coleman. Nog tried dozens of submissions and failed, only to get the patented G&P launched at him. Strike with him? Mirko got countered every time he threw a shot. Mirko>Josh in the striking game. It's really hard to imagine anyone having the ability to beat Fedor. Any style, any time, he just crushes it!
He beats Fedor by utilizing his strength and size against Fedor and busting out the pro wrestling moves. After Fedor is german suplexed by Barnett he'll be so confused and out of his game that he'll be easy pickings for Josh.

But seriously, I think that Barnett is a lot better than Coleman (and Randleman) and isn't as one dimensional as Cro Crop, so comparing their defeats isn't especially valid. Barnett can box, can obviously take a punch or several, and has a good ground game and knowledge of submissions, it isn't going to be a walk in the park for Fedor assuming Barnett wins the Grand Prix and they fight.

Everyone is beatable, a lot of people thought that Nog couldn't be beaten and that he'd make quick work of the Fedor (Even Quadros and Bas were dismayed and then awed by Fedor going into Nogs guard and giving up his arm so freely) and look how that eventually turned out.
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I'm not gonna be stupid and say that I think Barnett can beat Fedor, but I do think that he will Nog. Barnett has the best ground and pound of any fighter in this, and I don't think Nog is strong enough to submit him.
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that slam randleman does to fedor is good but fedor gets up and ends up winning tko lol
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I Think That The Nog And Barnett Fight Will Be A Grappling Match , And Imo..if U Grapple With A Bjj Master Like Nog Long Enough Ur Gonna Get Submitted...alot Of People Underestimate Nog's Stand Up Too..obviously When He Fights Guys Like Crocop On His Feet Hes Gonna Look Bad, But I Think He Can Hold His Own Against Barnett On His Feet..and As For Barnett Beating Fedor..cmon Guys Stop It, Seriously...barnett Is A Good Fighter But Cmon Now Hes Just Not Beating Fedor..ill Say It Again.. Name One Aspect Of Mma Where Barnett Is Better Than Fedor..none..if It Goes To The Ground, Fedor Is A Beast And If Their Standing Fedor Can Strike Toe To Toe Wit Mirko I Think He Would Own Barnett There Too..its A Moot Point Because We Are Gonna See Fedor Tool Nog For The Fourth Time Cuz Unfortunatley Hes Gonna Win This Tourney...go Wandelei..i Wanna See U And Fedor Fight So Bad
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7 people have voted for Silva. CroCop FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!
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You guys are such idiots and know nothing about MMA. Not only does Nogueira have the least amount of votes but hes going to win it and hes the best heavyweight out there besides Fedor. And Wanderlei has the most votes What a joke .
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I'm going with the most under-rated fighter in this tournament to take it....so my vote goes with Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.

Cro Cop over Silva --- Nog over Barnett --- Minotauro over Cro Cop. My thoughts. I'm anxiously awaiting this event though. Going to be awesome.
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Nogueira wins this tourney come on people stop over rating Wandy and Crocop. Crocop sure destroyed Nogueira but one mistake he was submitted. It will just be the same story in the finals. "Nogueira is bleeding, strikes by Crocop kick to the head, Nogueira falls and is bleeding crocop comes along, Nogueira takes his arm 'Armbar' Crocop is tapping his whiny ass!" And then Nogueira will get decision over Barnett since Barnett is so hard to submit. Nogueira owns and is the best the only one who can stop him is Fedor, idiots and noobs.
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