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Originally Posted by bbjd7
K first If u actually really looked at the position that coleman would have ended up in it wasn't going to be great he would have had shogun's back but he was gonna be to low on shogun's body to do anything like in Liddell vs Ortiz 2 when Ortiz had Liddell's back not much danger.
Second it's not the same Shogun Hit rampage with a knee and broke his ribs
all coleman did was grab shogun's ankle and shogun put his arm out Coleman wasn't manhadling him and in fact got caught in two submissions .
If Coleman would've slammed Shogun and broken his arm ok
If Coleman kicked Shogun and broke either his arm or ribs and the ref stopped the fight ok
If Coleman hit Shogun in anyway or doing anything that had the potential to hurt Shogun ( for example the Wandy vs Sakuraba pride 17 i would understand sense Wandy slammed him but Coleman didn't do anything to beat Shogun
So Just stop hating on Shogun it's becoming to old quick everyone keeps doing it until someone beats the pride Shogun since his first loss was in his 4th fight 2nd of the night against Babalu a guy who had gone against Liddell and Fedor. And no one has really even come close to beating Shogun since his first lose so back off.
Beside Fedor and Big Nog No one in the MMA World can come near Shogun
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1) I like to think Coleman is alot better at ground and pound than tito is. I'm starting to think its the only thing they train at hammer house.
2)of course its the same. both are injuries acquired in the fight directly by something the opponent did. what it seems like you are saying that if someone gets beat up for the entire fight then catches someone in a submission they should not get the win. should we take away a few of Nogs wins? what about the people the get dominated the entire fight but recover and get a one punch knockout? should we take those wins away? it doesn't matter what happens during the fight, its the last few seconds that decide the outcome(unless it goes to decision, then of course it is the entire fight)
3) i am not hating on Shogun, i am looking at this objectively without bias.if you are going to make up little rules on why someone shouldn't have won then you have to apply them to everyone.
Just watched Shogun vs. Rampage...
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