EliteXC / STRIKEFORCE Pro Elite, Inc announced on January 31, 2007 the strategic alliance between its EliteXC live events division and STRIKEFORCE, an American professional kickboxing and mixed martial arts promotion company based in San Jose, California. The strategic alliance paves the way for EliteXC and STRIKEFORCE to promote fights together.

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Old 07-23-2008, 12:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Franks going to KO Lawler in the 3rd, then he's going to KO Ken, then Sub Tito, Then Sub Cung Le, in that order. He wants to Fight every 3-5 months, so this should all happen by early 2010.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Look at the guys Tito defended his title against. None of them where that good until Couture showed up and that was years later.

Do you think Frank was scared of Tanner? Yuki Kondo? Patrick Cote? Wanderlei before anyone was really scared of him? He fought Elvis Sinosic and beat him before he fought Tito. What was Frank scared of?

Cung Le broke Frank's arm stop trolling or at least get better at it.
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Shamrock's biggest hole is still his wrestling, but I can't see Lawler going for a takedown or even doing much in Frank's guard.

I still think Frank could have knocked Cung Le out with another round and a healthy arm.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Broken arm, Kim Couture fought with a broken jaw. And she is a girl
You don't use your jaw to clinch or strike with.

We all know that she's a girl.
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How do you not respect Frank in the Cung Le fight?
Frank's bread and butter is submissions and he put that aside to go toe to toe with arguably one of the best strikers in MMA. He even rocked Le a few times. Cung Le wouldn't even go to the ground with Frank. If it wasn't for the arm injury we would be seeing a different outcome.
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I'm not disrespecting Frank, but the guy fought a stupid fight in the Cung fight.
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Frank shouldn't have stood with Cung Le, but he did so to try to beat Cung at his own game. Admirable, commendable, but not too smart.

Shamrock took the fight to Les' strength. You gotta' hand it to Frank. If he won (and he did do well) it would have been a BIG victory - beating Le in stand up.

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Frank shouldn't have stood with Cung Le, but he did so to try to beat Cung at his own game. Admirable, commendable, but not too smart.

Shamrock took the fight to Les' strength. You gotta' hand it to Frank. If he won (and he did do well) it would have been a BIG victory - beating Le in stand up.

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I don't beleive that Frank was dumb for standing.

I beleive that once Frank was in the cage with Cung, the way he didn't push the pace or close the distance was really dumb.

He was putting on a show, he was joking and throwing a kick and than backing up into the center of the cage again.

He was not aggressive enough for Cung. I still beleive that his stand up is worthy of Cung if he didn't screw around with those antics.

He came to put on a show, not to fight. That was his dumb move.
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No JP the fact he decided to stand was dumb.

Why would you stand with Cung Le who has proven stand up when he has an unknown ground game?

Frank could've gotten it to the ground a couple times and didn't seem very interested. He had a much greater chance of winning the fight on the ground than on the feet where it was maybe a 50/50 fight.

I don't blame Frank for wanting to put on a show but it was a terrible fight strategy.
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T'would be EXPLOSIVE! But I have to go with Franky boy. After that fight with Cung, I think Frank has a slight edge on the feet and an even bigger edge on the ground.
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