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Say what? Yeah he was in an old That's so Raven episode. Whats that gonna do with his talent? The dude raps about stuff that you just don't hear from most. Yeah he's a non-conformist. Is that a gimmick? I don't know. I don't believe it is. Theres loads of rappers that don't conform. He admits in his tunes he wears contacts to get noticed. He raps about corruption in the music industry, the Illuminati and the god damned awfulness that is Niki Minaj, Drake and friends. He raps about real stuff.

To be honest, I thought if you you were going to have a go at Hopsin it would be about how he used to rap about bitches and violence and now he doesn't. That would be because he found God. He wrote Ill mind of Hopsin 5 in like an hour in the middle of the night.

OK. You don't personally like him. But there's no chance in hell you can't admire his skill, flow and lyrics. His tunes are banging also.
I'm fresh off a battle rap site where multis are the overseer, so his ability to string together syllables isn't that impressive to me. The only good track from him is the last Ill State, which to be fair was completley insane for lyricism.

Hopsin uses non-conforming as a gimmick though. He signed to Ruthless Records, which unless you got a time machine and went back to 1988 was a ridiculous idea. He got burned by a lable and acts like he's now reborn as an underground rapper. The only reason Hop is underground is because the likes of Shady Records and Def Jam haven't came knocking. He's a decent lyricist and all but I think he tries to hard and is exactly what he claims he hates. He's just trying to make it, sure that's respectable, but when he picks on other people trying to make it and acts like he's so high and mighty above them, I don't know, gets to me. Even in the last Ill State he seemed as if he was so great and telling everyone what to do. I'm pretty sure a highly successful businessman could also say to him "You're wasting your time being an internet rapper" the exact same way he's telling a gangster that he's wasting his time doing as such.

Someone get Budhist to post in here so I can rep him for rocking the Wax shit. When I posted that Wax freestyle on the last page I didnt think anyone would have a clue who it was.

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I'm fresh off a battle rap site where multis are the overseer, so his ability to string together syllables isn't that impressive to me. The only good track from him is the last Ill State, which to be fair was completley insane for lyricism.

Hopsin uses non-conforming as a gimmick though. He signed to Ruthless Records, which unless you got a time machine and went back to 1988 was a ridiculous idea. He got burned by a lable and acts like he's now reborn as an underground rapper. The only reason Hop is underground is because the likes of Shady Records and Def Jam haven't came knocking. He's a decent lyricist and all but I think he tries to hard and is exactly what he claims he hates. He's just trying to make it, sure that's respectable, but when he picks on other people trying to make it and acts like he's so high and mighty above them, I don't know, gets to me. Even in the last Ill State he seemed as if he was so great and telling everyone what to do. I'm pretty sure a highly successful businessman could also say to him "You're wasting your time being an internet rapper" the exact same way he's telling a gangster that he's wasting his time doing as such.

Someone get Budhist to post in here so I can rep him for rocking the Wax shit. When I posted that Wax freestyle on the last page I didnt think anyone would have a clue who it was.
Ill mind I think you mean. I understand he might seem a bit preachy to you. He doesn't mean to be. He just wants to help people. He's now signed with Funk Volume with his friends. He has had other offers but he wants to stay as real as possible. If you see this as a gimmick then fair enough. I don't see it that way. I'm not sure your statement about the businessman holds true. Hopsin is rapping about stuff that matters and trying to better himself and the people around him. Gangsters sell drugs to kids. Theres a difference there.

He's exactly what he claims he hates? Please elaborate. He hates conformist Illuminati puppets who don't write their own shit, don't make their own music and don't make their own music videos. These people care about money and fame while he just wants to be a succesful rapper without being told what to do, wear and how to act my some suit at a record label. He his nothing at all like the people he hates. What the hell kind of similarities are there between Hopsin and Niki Minaj? Or Hopsin and Drake whoever the hell that is?

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Ill mind I think you mean. I understand he might seem a bit preachy to you. He doesn't mean to be. He just wants to help people. He's now signed with Funk Volume with his friends. He has had other offers but he wants to stay as real as possible. If you see this as a gimmick then fair enough. I don't see it that way. I'm not sure your statement about the businessman holds true. Hopsin is rapping about stuff that matters and trying to better himself and the people around him. Gangsters sell drugs to kids. Theres a difference there.

He's exactly what he claims he hates? Please elaborate. He hates conformist Illuminati puppets who don't write their own shit, don't make their own music and don't make their own music videos. These people care about money and fame while he just wants to be a succesful rapper without being told what to do, wear and how to act my some suit at a record label. He his nothing at all like the people he hates. What the hell kind of similarities are there between Hopsin and Niki Minaj? Or Hopsin and Drake whoever the hell that is?

Good to see another big Hip-hop fan on here though for a bit of tasty debate.
Shit I was sure it was called Ill State of Mind :S.

He didn't REALLY have other offers. If someone with actual credibility like Def Jam or Aftermath send him an email he'd be wiping himself off before signing on the dotted line. To say gangsters sell drugs to kids is quite generalising. Is the dude he's preaching to in the video even a drug dealer?

Also, the Illuminati isn't real. I don't care if Dave Chappele (a very credible member of society) disagrees with that. And what's wrong with not making your own music or videos? Producing is a VERY specific skill, and in a lot of cases it comes down to having the "ear" to make a proper song. Just because Hopsin has a talent in that respect he can look down on others for not? Is Tom Hardy a fake and a fraud because he doesn't direct his own movies?

Also, Hopsin signed to Ruthless and had they not been a bullshit lable nowadays, he'd have been doing the exact same as everyone else. He's like CM Punk in wrestling. He claims he doesn't do what his bosses tell him, but that's only because he was gifted the oppertunity to speak. There are billions of guys like Hopsin who don't get the oppertunity to be heard like he does. He can't look down on them if they try to achieve their dreams and sign to a record lable. It's what they've always wanted and because it's something he doesnt, he thinks it's selling out. Drake always wanted to be a big name. He wanted to be a big actor, now he wants to be a big recording artist. He achieved that goal and now he is. Can Hopsin really look down on him for that? Hopsin has talents, and believes that others who don't have those talents are inferior to him. Did he think rappers who don't write their own stuff were a joke when he signed to Eazy E's record lable? (For the record, Eazy is my #3 all time regardless of ghostwriters).

He just got the oppertunity to be heard with a decent internet fan base. There are people who would look down on someone whoring themselves on youtube to get likes, and there will be people looking down on someone handing their CDs out on the street to get recognition. If someone wants to be a famous mainstream rapper, and they are successful in it, why do they need to be the most complex and talented lyricist?

And yeah, I got banned on my rap website of 6 years so good to get my old triple OG gangster talk out somewhere

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Shit I was sure it was called Ill State of Mind :S.

He didn't REALLY have other offers. If someone with actual credibility like Def Jam or Aftermath send him an email he'd be wiping himself off before signing on the dotted line. To say gangsters sell drugs to kids is quite generalising. Is the dude he's preaching to in the video even a drug dealer?

Also, the Illuminati isn't real. I don't care if Dave Chappele (a very credible member of society) disagrees with that. And what's wrong with not making your own music or videos? Producing is a VERY specific skill, and in a lot of cases it comes down to having the "ear" to make a proper song. Just because Hopsin has a talent in that respect he can look down on others for not? Is Tom Hardy a fake and a fraud because he doesn't direct his own movies?

Also, Hopsin signed to Ruthless and had they not been a bullshit lable nowadays, he'd have been doing the exact same as everyone else. He's like CM Punk in wrestling. He claims he doesn't do what his bosses tell him, but that's only because he was gifted the oppertunity to speak. There are billions of guys like Hopsin who don't get the oppertunity to be heard like he does. He can't look down on them if they try to achieve their dreams and sign to a record lable. It's what they've always wanted and because it's something he doesnt, he thinks it's selling out. Drake always wanted to be a big name. He wanted to be a big actor, now he wants to be a big recording artist. He achieved that goal and now he is. Can Hopsin really look down on him for that? Hopsin has talents, and believes that others who don't have those talents are inferior to him. Did he think rappers who don't write their own stuff were a joke when he signed to Eazy E's record lable? (For the record, Eazy is my #3 all time regardless of ghostwriters).

He just got the oppertunity to be heard with a decent internet fan base. There are people who would look down on someone whoring themselves on youtube to get likes, and there will be people looking down on someone handing their CDs out on the street to get recognition. If someone wants to be a famous mainstream rapper, and they are successful in it, why do they need to be the most complex and talented lyricist?

And yeah, I got banned on my rap website of 6 years so good to get my old triple OG gangster talk out somewhere
Ha, why did you get banned?

I think theres an issue here. A big factor. One of us believes he's looking down on rappers. The other isn't. Listen closely to his lyrics and you'll realise he's incredibly humble. OK, not so much with his old stuff but more his recent stuff. I don't think he really has that much of a problem with people wanting to be a mainstream "rapper", the problem is that there are alot less talented people than him, Dizzy, SwizZz, Jared Benton, Rittz etc but are seen to be the cream of the crop because they are in the charts every week. I can understand this. OK, money rules the world and of course he, like evryone, wants lots of it. But he's not that obsessed with it to warrant signing to Sony, Warner or some shit like that. As far as the Illuminati go, theres a lot of misinformation out there, you just have to put the pieces of the puzzle together, join the lines. I've done a hell of alot of research on it and I'm not 100% decided yet but don't dismiss things without dong your own research. But this isn't the place to discuss it.

That being said, I get your feelings on Hopsin, what about SwizZz and Dizzy Wright? They make some righteous tunes.

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