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post #121 of 348 (permalink) Old 02-11-2013, 03:40 AM
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I hope they bring back Daryl and Merle soon, won't be as funny a show without them especially with the main character going crazy and seeing his dead wife all over the place.



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Pretty much exactly what I was thinking while watching it. It's an alright show and I'll keep downloading and watching so fair play, but it's nothing like it's brought up to be, and compared to actual great shows it's really lacking. Despite them going through the most horrible things imaginable for two and a half seasons I don't feel emotionally invested in more than a couple of characters. The 'heartfelt' conversations in each episode are just a lot of words with little substance, and I find myself skipping ahead after a while. The old people dying off and new people joining the group-schtick can only be fresh for so long, right now theres nothing to drive this show ahead. The biggest flaw is the writing, the Andrea speech-scene this episode was the most cliche "strong woman adressing conserned, muttering crowd" I've ever seen. I hope they will step their game up but Breaking Bad is far and away the better of the two shows, and I fail to see how so many people think otherwise.


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I've been catching up with Homeland, Breaking Bad, Shameless and some comedy shows lately. I have to say each and every one of these shows is more enjoyable than The Walking Dead. The first season was all "CARL! CAAAAARL!!!", the second season was saved by Hershel and Shane and was good once they stopped doing the "SOPHIA! SOPHIIIIAAA!" thing but now there's just nothing happening anymore. The show has lost the one relationship that made things interesting (Shane and Rick).

The group finds a prison, clears it out, people die and now they live there. Then they find out there's a crazy person playing God in a small town where people live normally. That's literally everything you need to tell someone who's just getting into the show.

I'll still watch it because of the crazy ass cliffhangers.

Oh and by the way, Homeland > Breaking Bad.




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Oh and by the way, Homeland > Breaking Bad.
I would have to respectfully disagree, although I'm glad to see you liked Homeland this much. Season 2 seemed to split opinions among many of my friends, but I loved it, and thought it was even better than season 1. The farewell at the end really tore my heart out. The acting on that show puts everything else on TV these days to shame. Claire Danes rocks my socks.

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I would have to respectfully disagree, although I'm glad to see you liked Homeland this much. Season 2 seemed to split opinions among many of my friends, but I loved it, and thought it was even better than season 1. The farewell at the end really tore my heart out. The acting on that show puts everything else on TV these days to shame. Claire Danes rocks my socks.

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I'm a huge Breaking Bad fan but so far I don't find a single bad thing about Homeland. They've put on two great seasons that got me emotionally invested into literally every character. Meanwhile on Breaking Bad I'm really hoping Skyler and her sister would just go away so I can see more of the characters that still have a purpose.




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I thought it was a decent episode. I've long since known the true stars of the show are the flesh eating undead.

btw: Yall need to watch "House Of Cards!"

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The Walking Dead is just a sub-par show IMO. The writing is just plain bad and every thing is so cliche'. The show sucks because it's centralised around character development, but in order for a show like that to be successful you need strong writing, intriguing characters and good acting/performances. The writing is weak, the acting is average/sub-par and the characters are just dull. The only redeeming quality of this show are the actual zombie action sequences, they have always been bad ass, but the show isn't centred around that, it's trying to be an emotional drama with thought out characters, and it misses the mark completely IMO. It's trying to be some thing it's not.

As for Homeland being better than BB, season 1 of Homeland is near flawless television IMO and it features one of, if not THE most tense and nerve wrecking scenes in tv history. (You guys will know what I'm talking about). Season 2 how ever was over all, no where near as good as season 1. It was still very solid, and the second half was much better and had a great ending, but it wasn't a patch on the first season because of the huge mystery and guessing game factor the first season had. So it goes below Breaking Bad for me.

As far as I'm concerned though, The Shield tops them all. Since I have been done with The Shield all of my regular tv shows which I used to LOVE are now just moderately entertaining. The Shield has left a gap in my television entertainment world which can't seem to be filled.

Edit: @Mercy, watched the House Of Cards pilot last night. Enjoyed it, Kevin Spacey is one of my favourite actors and he seems to have landed a great role with a great character. It's the subject of politics which puts me off in the long term though, I don't know how long I can remain interested in the subject matter.
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I'm a huge Breaking Bad fan but so far I don't find a single bad thing about Homeland. They've put on two great seasons that got me emotionally invested into literally every character. Meanwhile on Breaking Bad I'm really hoping Skyler and her sister would just go away so I can see more of the characters that still have a purpose.
Marie is kind of a dud but Skylar plays a huge role throughout as Walters wife, who he has to constantly keep under wraps, lie to her yet protect her from harm. It's the Sopranos school of showmaking where everything revolves around the main character and his many relationships in basically two different worlds.
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As for Homeland being better than BB, season 1 of Homeland is near flawless television IMO and it features one of, if not THE most tense and nerve wrecking scenes in tv history. (You guys will know what I'm talking about). Season 2 how ever was over all, no where near as good as season 1. It was still very solid, and the second half was much better and had a great ending, but it wasn't a patch on the first season because of the huge mystery and guessing game factor the first season had. So it goes below Breaking Bad for me.
I can't really explain why I prefered season 2, to be honest I don't remember season 1 that well, it's on my re-watch list for sure. I know exactly what scene you are talking about and Damian Lewis knocked it out of the park with that one, he looked in such agony and despair, just wonderful acting. The Brody/Carrie love story has to be one of the only relationship on TV and film which doesn't feel forced and cliched at all.
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As far as I'm concerned though, The Shield tops them all. Since I have been done with The Shield all of my regular tv shows which I used to LOVE are now just moderately entertaining. The Shield has left a gap in my television entertainment world which can't seem to be filled.
I discuss TV series quite alot on the interwebs, and I've never heard anyone praise The Shield quite as much as that. I do agree it's a phenomenal show, and would make my top 10. Infact, heres a hastily put together top 10 drama series:

The Sopranos
Oz
Breaking Bad
The Wire
Homeland
Band Of Brothers
The Shield
Deadwood
Twin Peaks
Six Feet Under


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It's the Sopranos school of showmaking where everything revolves around the main character and his many relationships in basically two different worlds.

The Sopranos
Oz
Breaking Bad
The Wire
Homeland
Band Of Brothers
The Shield
Deadwood
Twin Peaks
Six Feet Under
You actually watched Twin Peaks. Haunting soundtrack, one of my old favorites.

Nice comparison. The Sopranos was always about two families. Nobody ever got a chance to see how a mob don interact with his family and it was almost always comical. Tony was callous and a ruthless mob boss on the other hand when it came to family he was this jovial character who exuded joi de vivre; bbqs and swimming in his pools with his ducks. As one of the episodes there's TWO TONY'S. The writing for that show is unparalleled. It had a film noir feel to it.

I have to say axing Frank Darabont played a role in all this for Walking Dead. For the most part though I still enjoy it, but I do feel some settings are protracted; Sophia season. In reality that could have been condensed into two episodes. I have a feeling the HBO execs wanted to milk it so the writers/producer/director had no choice, but to extend it as long as they could. As viewers we need plots to continue pushing the storyline. Sometimes it does feel like it drags on which maybe is a metaphor to how the zombies are. Everything is so drab and overdramatic. Suppose that's what makes this stand out compared to Zombie films which are all action based.

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How can anyone on planet earth think Shameless is better than Walking Dead? Shameless used to be an awesome show...before every decent character left, they moved onto another family with 1 funny character, and every new character liked to have sex with men on a regular basis (most of those new characters themselves being men). It just turned super gay and they force the shit out of the comedy. I hear they're bringing back some of the half decent characters so I'll have a watch then.

Walking Dead > Breaking Bad imo

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