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Old 07-06-2011, 11:33 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't get the hate on Transformers, I really don't.

Giant robots, fighting each other on the ******* moon, in ******* 3D?! Yes, please.

What do people expect from a Transformer's film? Do you expect a great story, plot, acting and dialogue? Hell no.

I expect mind blowing special effects featuring giant robots in all out robot war, hot chicks and some cheesey lines/comedy. And yea, I really enjoy it.

I loved the first Transformers film, hated the second one and this third one blew me away. It seriously has the best special effects I have seen in a film to date, just incredible. The entire second half of the film is just a visual orgasm and it's brilliant in 3D.

Avatar used the exact same formula and yet has a rating of 8.2 on imdb and I believe is in the top 250 films of all time, yet The Transformers gets slated.
To be clear, I fecking H.A.T.E.D Avatar. Seriously, honestly, hated it.
Far more then the Transformers movies.
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i really really liked Transformers 1, did not like #2 and 3 was not bad except the new girl ...she cant act at all the visuals were great
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To be clear, I fecking H.A.T.E.D Avatar. Seriously, honestly, hated it.
Far more then the Transformers movies.
I went to see Avatar at the IMAX in 3d. As shitty as the story/characters/dialogue and every thing else was, it was just so visually impressive and such an immersive experience that I couldn't help but love it. The 3d effects were outstanding, I had my eyes and mouth wide open almost throughout the entire film. It probably would have been a better film if all of the characters were just mute and didn't say any thing, ever.
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I went to see Avatar at the IMAX in 3d. As shitty as the story/characters/dialogue and every thing else was, it was just so visually impressive and such an immersive experience that I couldn't help but love it. The 3d effects were outstanding, I had my eyes and mouth wide open almost throughout the entire film. It probably would have been a better film if all of the characters were just mute and didn't say any thing, ever.
Exactly. As a tech demo... fantastic. ( if artistically, a bit sterile ).

As a film?... awful. Just awful.

What happened to James Cameron. From Terminator and Aliens... to Titanic and Avatar. The better the tech, the worse the movies. Go figure.
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Exactly. As a tech demo... fantastic. ( if artistically, a bit sterile ).

As a film?... awful. Just awful.

What happened to James Cameron. From Terminator and Aliens... to Titanic and Avatar. The better the tech, the worse the movies. Go figure.
I have to agree with this. I find myself liking movies with less high tech stuff better than the ones with special effects behind every corner. One exception is the first Matrix movie.
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Old 07-06-2011, 12:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I have to agree with this. I find myself liking movies with less high tech stuff better than the ones with special effects behind every corner. One exception is the first Matrix movie.
The first Matrix movie oozed style. That was something special.

Actually, I just remembered... District 9. That had fantastic visuals and was a great film. And if I'm honest, I enjoyed the War of the Worlds re-make. So, there are some films drenched in fancy graphics, that I do like.
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I don't get the hate on Transformers, I really don't.

Giant robots, fighting each other on the ******* moon, in ******* 3D?! Yes, please.

What do people expect from a Transformer's film? Do you expect a great story, plot, acting and dialogue? Hell no.

I expect mind blowing special effects featuring giant robots in all out robot war, hot chicks and some cheesey lines/comedy. And yea, I really enjoy it.

I loved the first Transformers film, hated the second one and this third one blew me away. It seriously has the best special effects I have seen in a film to date, just incredible. The entire second half of the film is just a visual orgasm and it's brilliant in 3D.

Avatar used the exact same formula and yet has a rating of 8.2 on imdb and I believe is in the top 250 films of all time, yet The Transformers gets slated.
Okay, people seem to use this "giant robots beating the shit out of each other" defense when referring to Transformers. Do I go to Transformers 3 to see Robots beat the shit out each other? Hell Yeah I do! Problem is it doesn't happen that often in this film. This movie centered more around the human characters fighting the Decepticons then it does the Autobots fighting them. It goes right back to what I said before about the Transformers being the co-stars in there own movie.

Now do I expect a great story, acting, and dialogue? When the human characters take up 90% of the movie then yes I do. Who spent real money just to watch Shia Labeouf consistently bitch about his life to his extremely hot (and probably rich) girlfriend?
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Exactly. As a tech demo... fantastic. ( if artistically, a bit sterile ).

As a film?... awful. Just awful.

What happened to James Cameron. From Terminator and Aliens... to Titanic and Avatar. The better the tech, the worse the movies. Go figure.
Well, you have to ask yourself. What actually makes a good film, what is art? Is it an intriguing story, characters with depth and great writing or is it huge budget films with mind blowing visuals? How do you define what makes a good film. It's very rare you get the two things mixed together, exceptions like you pointed out though, district 9, Terminator 2 (special effects still look good to this day as well) etc.

I can appreciate and enjoy both types, providing that the story/dialogue/character's aren't THAT BAD.

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Okay, people seem to use this "giant robots beating the shit out of each other" defense when referring to Transformers. Do I go to Transformers 3 to see Robots beat the shit out each other? Hell Yeah I do! Problem is it doesn't happen that often in this film. This movie centered more around the human characters fighting the Decepticons then it does the Autobots fighting them. It goes right back to what I said before about the Transformers being the co-stars in there own movie.

Now do I expect a great story, acting, and dialogue? When the human characters take up 90% of the movie then yes I do. Who spent real money just to watch Shia Labeouf consistently bitch about his life to his extremely hot (and probably rich) girlfriend?
Well have you seen the new transformers? It advertises a war between humans and the decepticons, but that's not actually how it is at all. The entire second half of the film is just all out robot warfare.

The robots take up most of the second half of the film.

Off topic but speaking about films with great CGI and great characters and story. KUNG FU HUSTLE. If you haven't seen this film yet, then watch it ASAP. It's in my top 10

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373074/
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Well, you have to ask yourself. What actually makes a good film, what is art? Is it an intriguing story, characters with depth and great writing or is it huge budget films with mind blowing visuals? How do you define what makes a good film. It's very rare you get the two things mixed together, exceptions like you pointed out though, district 9, Terminator 2 (special effects still look good to this day as well) etc.

I can appreciate and enjoy both types, providing that the story/dialogue/character's aren't THAT BAD.



Well have you seen the new transformers? It advertises a war between humans and the decepticons, but that's not actually how it is at all. The entire second half of the film is just all out robot warfare.

The robots take up most of the second half of the film.

Off topic but speaking about films with great CGI and great characters and story. KUNG FU HUSTLE. If you haven't seen this film yet, then watch it ASAP. It's in my top 10

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373074/
Kung Fu Hustle is a MAGNIFICENT film. Good call.
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Kung Fu Hustle is a MAGNIFICENT film. Good call.
I ****in' love kung fu hustle. Seen it like 6 times, never get's boring.
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