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Old 05-05-2007, 05:05 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Why do you guys care so much about negative reps or even positive reps?
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:15 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Why do you guys care so much about negative reps or even positive reps?
I answered this question several times now lol.

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It's not the fact that we are getting bad reps and losing points or whatnot. It's the fact that people can get away with breaking the rules by insulting us and swearing at us without getting in trouble for it. If insulting and swearing is against the rules, and I got banned for it after people were bashing my country, then these assholes should also be banned for doing it to everyone else, except without any reason.

I shouldn't see a long list of insults and swears everytime I go to look at my User CP. It's against the rules, so something should be done about it. If nothing gets done about it then why the **** should I, or anyone else, care about the rules?
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"Why do you guys care so much about negative reps or even positive reps?"




thats like saying why do we care about points or avatars.
Its a feature on the forum.
the point is that 75% of neg reps given are given for no good reason at all.
just b/c neg reps dont affect you and your 7 or 8 bars doesent mean they dont affect members with less.


and kameleon with all the rep youve got im sure you worked for allot of it, whether it be you sat in some thread and built up reps by trading them or you actually earned them either way you oviosly care about positive reps so why act like they mean nothing and ask us why we care?

this is the feedback area

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Old 05-05-2007, 05:43 PM   #44 (permalink)
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"Why do you guys care so much about negative reps or even positive reps?"
thats like saying why do we care about points or avatars.
Its a feature on the forum.
the point is that 75% of neg reps given are given for no good reason at all.
just b/c neg reps dont affect you and your 7 or 8 bars doesent mean they dont affect members with less.

and kameleon with all the rep youve got im sure you worked for allot of it, whether it be you sat in some thread and built up reps by trading them or you actually earned them either way you oviosly care about positive reps so why act like they mean nothing and ask us why we care?

this is the feedback area
I could really care less about the rep system. If it were taken out today, it wouldn't bother me. It's not about how many bars a person has that I have a problem with it's how/why is everyone complaining about it. If everyone with alot of bars started neg repping me, I would care. Trust me I don't work for my reps, people just give it to me and I in return give it back.

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It's not the fact that we are getting bad reps and losing points or whatnot. It's the fact that people can get away with breaking the rules by insulting us and swearing at us without getting in trouble for it. If insulting and swearing is against the rules, and I got banned for it after people were bashing my country, then these assholes should also be banned for doing it to everyone else, except without any reason.

I shouldn't see a long list of insults and swears everytime I go to look at my User CP. It's against the rules, so something should be done about it. If nothing gets done about it then why the **** should I, or anyone else, care about the rules?
OK I can see where your coming from with the User CP and all the swearing. Your right about breaking the rules and that everyone should follow them.

The reason I don't care if you can see who neg reps is because it will cause alot more problems and more arguing. If someone neg reps you and you can see who did it, you will in return neg rep that person for no good reason other that you got negative rep.

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Someone post that Chuck Liddell is way better than Rampage.
A Rampage fans sees that and gives you negative rep because your not giving any reasons why, your just meaning mean. He disagrees with you.

You check your User CP and see that, it makes you upset so you in return neg rep that person. After awhile you relize that neg repping each other is useless and then you take it to the boards, making more work for mods, making yourself look bad by flaming each other rather than debating the topic and overall make the boards look like crap.

Negative rep only leads to negative if you can see who reps you.
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I could really care less about the rep system. If it were taken out today, it wouldn't bother me. It's not about how many bars a person has that I have a problem with it's how/why is everyone complaining about it. If everyone with alot of bars started neg repping me, I would care. Trust me I don't work for my reps, people just give it to me and I in return give it back.



OK I can see where your coming from with the User CP and all the swearing. Your right about breaking the rules and that everyone should follow them.

The reason I don't care if you can see who neg reps is because it will cause alot more problems and more arguing. If someone neg reps you and you can see who did it, you will in return neg rep that person for no good reason other that you got negative rep.

Example:
Someone post that Chuck Liddell is way better than Rampage.
A Rampage fans sees that and gives you negative rep because your not giving any reasons why, your just meaning mean. He disagrees with you.

You check your User CP and see that, it makes you upset so you in return neg rep that person. After awhile you relize that neg repping each other is useless and then you take it to the boards, making more work for mods, making yourself look bad by flaming each other rather than debating the topic and overall make the boards look like crap.

Negative rep only leads to negative if you can see who reps you.
Ever since Ruban and TREY have been telling us who it is neg repping, it has slowed down dramatically, at least for me. People don't wanna neg rep if someone is gonna find out it was them. Some of you like you and Halebop and TREY are doing a good job at humiliating the neg reppers and at least for me I haven't been getting nearly as many. I was getting at least 1 or 2 a day for a while there.

The point is the neg reppers should be temp banned at the very least and maybe then they will think twice about giving neg reps with personal insults attached without leaving their name.

The rep feature is fun for most of us, like Jaws said it is a forum feature, just cuz it may not be fun for you doesn't mean everyone on the forum has the same opinion. I don't want a couple neg repping pussies to ruin it for everyone on the forum. Most of my rep is from good posts, although abouut 20% or so is from the Rep distribution thread that I haven't posted in forever.
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I dont mind if someone neg reps me for a valid reason. The problem is when people leave rude remarks for no other reason for the fact they can and no one knows who they are. That is the issue. Hell I've gotten neg rep in this thread already just for saying this
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Getting rid of the rep system would be stupid. And banning neg reps would basically get rid of the entire rep system.

The only real solution is to make it where the rep system automatically leaves your username when you give rep...good or bad. Then, on top of that, you can leave a message if you like...but your username will always be there.

Yep that sounds good.
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kds that sounds like a great idea, names left for every good or bad rep. But i dont agree that killing neg reps would destroy the rep system.



i have to be honest tho, my posts probly seem like a care allot more about this than i really do.I just dont see neg reps being a good feature.
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I responded to this thread, but it seems that my post was deleted. This isn't the first time it's happend and I don't know why. I didn't even say anything out of the way.
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:35 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I cant see how Mods or atlest Admins cant see who neg repped, im sure they can (may have been answered earlier). If the Mods dont have the time to deal with it GET MORE. I modded a forum with over 300,000 members (obviously not all posted), cant say it was hard. When the going got tough we got more Mods or "trusted members" to help out.

If members neg rep and flame then warn/ban them. It seems members neg rep for no reason. I mean if someone calls your fave fighter a douche bag and a d class fighter then fair enough, but if someone says the fight was more 50/50 than a 20/80 then thats wrong to neg rep.

Leaving names could cause some flameing, but maybe less neg reps wil be left if you cant do it on the sly. And if someone causes you greif you can msg a Mod to sort it, its not like if you neg rep someone for a valid reason you have to deal with any insults without any help. PM a mod about it, any admin should be able to read you mail (if not their are forum mods to allow it).
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