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Old 08-17-2009, 01:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Somewhat, I think you need to remember that the reason most people like this forum is we keep the trolls under control as much as possible instead of letting them run the establishment like Sherdog.
The other coin flip of Sherdog is that there is no leeway on the humor aspect, and accounts are banned en masse based on whatever whim the mod has.

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There is a smacktalk section for funny threads. We like to keep the forum based on intelligent MMA discussion. Troll threads don't help to acheive that outcome.
Intelligent discussion can ensue from all arenas of speech. It is what you make of it.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Intelligent discussion can ensue from all arenas of speech. It is what you make of it.

A very valid point however when a thread looks like it's causing nothing but trouble I lock it seeing as nothing intelligent has been posted while the thread in question has run its route.
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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A very valid point however when a thread looks like it's causing nothing but trouble I lock it seeing as nothing intelligent has been posted while the thread in question has run its route.
Most of these threads are locked after 3-4 posts, giving no time for anything "intelligent" to ensue. And a thread will have "run its course" when there is no ability for it to continue.

I've also been neg repped for stating my opinion with a "why fight it" comment. A very mature an intelligent response to my query, to be sure.

If this feels like an attack, I assure you, it is not. But it's fascinating to watch a society pride itself on freedom, and then watch as it turns censorship on itself in every facet of discourse.

If freedom of speech included everything agreeable, then why would it be the very first amendment to the Constitution?

And yes, this is a private forum, owned by someone, but why the forced restriction on so pivotal a right? Obviously, child porn, or other illegal sentiments are not included in the freedom of discourse, but other than that, why the need to interfere? Is this forum not "intelligent" enough to proceed within its community without arbitrary decisions being made by others as to what constitutes "humor," "intelligent discussion," or when an idea has "run its course?"

This is a philosophical debate, and one I will assuredly "lose." It just fascinates me how fleeting and diluted the expression of ideas has become.
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 08-17-2009, 03:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Most of these threads are locked after 3-4 posts, giving no time for anything "intelligent" to ensue. And a thread will have "run its course" when there is no ability for it to continue.

I've also been neg repped for stating my opinion with a "why fight it" comment. A very mature an intelligent response to my query, to be sure.

If this feels like an attack, I assure you, it is not. But it's fascinating to watch a society pride itself on freedom, and then watch as it turns censorship on itself in every facet of discourse.

If freedom of speech included everything agreeable, then why would it be the very first amendment to the Constitution?

And yes, this is a private forum, owned by someone, but why the forced restriction on so pivotal a right? Obviously, child porn, or other illegal sentiments are not included in the freedom of discourse, but other than that, why the need to interfere? Is this forum not "intelligent" enough to proceed within its community without arbitrary decisions being made by others as to what constitutes "humor," "intelligent discussion," or when an idea has "run its course?"

This is a philosophical debate, and one I will assuredly "lose." It just fascinates me how fleeting and diluted the expression of ideas has become.

Who do you feel attacked by?

And sorry man, I will continue to close troll threads, they are a violation of forum rules.
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Old 08-17-2009, 03:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Who do you feel attacked by?

And sorry man, I will continue to close troll threads, they are a violation of forum rules.
I don't feel attacked. I wanted you to know I'm not singling out or attacking a mod.

And I guess the question is, what is the definition of a "troll thread?"
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Old 08-17-2009, 04:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I don't feel attacked. I wanted you to know I'm not singling out or attacking a mod.

And I guess the question is, what is the definition of a "troll thread?"

Same as a troll. In thread fasion.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Same as a troll. In thread fasion.
Lol. Definition Easter-egg hunt.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Lol. Definition Easter-egg hunt.
A troll thread is the same as a troll post, it has no actual meaning, it does not have any real subject of debate other than how ridiculous the thread is, or if it is breaking a set general rule, such as racism or spamming.

These threads will be closed, as they are not only pointless, but can lead to insults and other useless discussions.

It is best to close them before they reach that limit, not after.
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I'll give you my favorite example the "Why I think Fedor isnt in the UFC" I HATE these threads why some people think there thoughts cant go in a thread with the hundreds of other posters I dont know but for some reason they start there own thread, I close them all the time because if everyone did that there would be a million threads with no responses. Its bullshit.
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