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he got a warning, even in the message I gave him with the warning I said this is the last time i am going to warn him because he is a great member but he has to post the full article or none of the article. I have already had teh discussion with WouldLuv2FightU before about him posting the links to his blogs/articles and what not, if you are going to post a link to the them you need to quote the whole article and post it in the thread.

WouldLuv2FightU do you not remember the last talk we had about you doing this not to long ago where I asked you to stop doing this and warned you that just because you are one of my favorite members does not mean that if you keep on that these will turn into infractions? but just fyi I was still being nice and gave you a warning again about it WouldLuv2FightU that is the reason why it is yellow next to it and also in the message that went along with it said it was a warning
 
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Wow I am actually surprised at how many people understand my issue.

M_D I have nothing against you cuz I know you're just doing what you're told. But what you're told to do is extremely unethical and greedy on so many levels. The internet is supposed to be a community. I guarantee this site alone makes WELL over $5000 a month in ad revenue alone...not to mention the plethora of other forums owned by this greedy company. It's literally exactly how the UFC is...no one else exists but this site.

I think this is an issue that needs to be openly discussed because we all know you moderators are just doing your job, but there is no denying how ridiculous this rule is. I would also like to point out that this rule is not actually listed anywhere on the site.
 
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The other thing I agree was a little BS on their part. That was most definitely in the category of spam.

But I don't see how articles directly pertaining to UFC subjects from a site that doesn't even have any kind of MMA forum anywhere near it...is considered spam. Spam has a definition and articles that directly pertain to UFC being posted in a UFC forum...that is clearly not defined as spam.

By the way thanks to all the mods for understanding...it makes me feel a lot better about this site. I know it's not you guys, it's Vertical Sports.
 
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Tbh honest I kinda agree with it, its their business why should they want people coming into their business to make money. plus I think it is also just a situation of convenience for members not to have to travel to another site to read the blog/article why is it so hard to just post the whole article in the opening post? honestly im not posting this to start an argument or anything just posting a different view on the subject, what it truly comes down to is it's VS's forums if they said people could post just the link or half a blog I would say ok good ta know if they tell me not to let people I do the same thing and say ok good ta know, its their website and they just allow me to post on it is the way i see it in which I gladly do so for I love it here and allot of the people that post here including yourself even though you dont think to highly of me at the present moment but I am used to that from people I like on here lol.
 
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Articles are not in competition for their earnings for this site. This site doesn't have an article section so that's not how they make money. In fact, if it wasn't for people writing articles on other sites, this forum would be boring and empty. Article sites need forums for exposure, and forums need article sites for content. They are SUPPOSED to work together, that's how the internet works. It's a community. But Vertical Sports takes the unethical route and just wants to hog all the traffic so they can collect AdSense revenue from Google Ads.

There's no real logical reason other than pure greed for them to force members to not view other sites. They make a ridiculous amount of money and all they have to do is sit back and wait for people to click ads (meanwhile you mods and us members are doing all the leg work for NO PAY). The longer people are on their site the more chances they have to get ad clicks. But people are on this site 24 hours a day, constantly. To have about 70 members (this is the amount of page views I got from this site) take a few minutes to read a UFC related article is not going to affect them in any way shape or form.

My favorite reason they want us to post the whole article is because it pretty much guarantees that each page of that thread will contain relevant, high-paying ads, due to the mass amount of keywords that are going to be copy and pasted onto the first post. Essentially, they are trying to steal keywords in order to make more money. Ethical? Sure why not.

Plus I worked hard researching, writing, editing, formatting, and publishing my work, I don't want it to be seen in a shitty gray quote box and have to re-format it all again to make it look the way I intended.

Anyone who agrees with this rule...I don't ever want to see you make a post about how the UFC acting like they own MMA is messed up. EVER. I WILL CALL YOU OUT ON IT :thumbsup:
 
#16 ·
I agree with everything but the third sentence of the first paragraph.

I add to my knowledge of MMA and the history/application/integration of related arts every day on this site. I've never once been ridiculed for the fact that I didn't know all this stuff 10 years ago, or don't know about the fighters or promotions that are considered "better" due to a pointless and unfounded elitism.

The information I get every day adds to my experience and ability in my own practice of combat sports, and I pass it on to the people in the growing standup striking/JJ type grappling classes I take.

I've gotten the best training/nutrition advice on this site than any other. Some of it came from you WL2FU, 3 years ago when I broke my ankle, and I haven't forgotten it.

I'm just a small representation of the skyrocketing numbers of women in martial arts/combat sports, and despite their participation, they are only a very small percentage of the MMA/UFC audience so far. Either way this forum has been by far the most helpful resource.
 
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I can't really tell what you're referring to with this post, sorry.

It is what it is so how about we go back to discussing MMA, If you unhappy WouldLuv2FightU you can feel free to email Vertical Sports with your concerns but there is no need to argue the merits of it here.
Yes I agree it is what it is...illegal. Just so it's known, yea they can ban me for breaking the rules, but that rule is actually illegal. It's keyword theft and not only does it allow them to have high paying relevant ads on each page of a thread (notice how this thread's ads have nothing to do with MMA?)it also allows them to steal traffic from the original site because MMAforum's Alexa Ranking is so much higher than all these article sites that when someone searches on google for an article, MMAforum will have first dibs on the front page because they naturally have a higher search engine ranking. So the person clicks on the MMAforum thread and reads it there instead of the original source.

You guys(not all you of course) can act like it's no big deal all you want but the fact of the matter is this is some of the most shady shit you can do in online business. If google knew about this MMAforum would very likely get blacklisted by them and permanently banned from Google AdSense.

But yea I've said my piece and I'm going to be saying it again to Vertical Sports via e-mail. I'm done talking about this now
 
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It is what it is so how about we go back to discussing MMA, If you unhappy WouldLuv2FightU you can feel free to email Vertical Sports with your concerns but there is no need to argue the merits of it here.
 
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