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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old 10-08-2007, 08:52 PM
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Thanks for the links and good advice.. people just starting out should not be blowing money on a custom designed gaurd.. a $30 one from shockDoctor or brainpad will protect you just as well..
I don't even think they need to be spending that much. I would go the route the above poster went (.99 cents a pop). I've got a few mouthguards, and the most expensive one cost $5.

On the flipside to that, I ordered 3 plain singles to replace some of my older guards, and they sent me 30! I started giving out the extras to the guys at the dojo I go to. One of the trainers has been saying that I'm just trying to line up victoms for sparring. :P

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I don't even think they need to be spending that much. I would go the route the above poster went (.99 cents a pop). I've got a few mouthguards, and the most expensive one cost $5.

On the flipside to that, I ordered 3 plain singles to replace some of my older guards, and they sent me 30! I started giving out the extras to the guys at the dojo I go to. One of the trainers has been saying that I'm just trying to line up victoms for sparring. :P
Title.com has a box of 100 mouthgaurds for like $30... I think thats right... not sure where my catalog is at the moment.

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I got a 2-pack for 3 bucks! I've had them for 10 years! Never had any problems with them. I used a sharpie on one and blacked out where my left front tooth was. I thought it was funny when I was 15. The piece was white of course.
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I got a 2-pack for 3 bucks! I've had them for 10 years! Never had any problems with them. I used a sharpie on one and blacked out where my left front tooth was. I thought it was funny when I was 15. The piece was white of course.
ok thats pretty funny..

THe mouth gaurd I am getting is like $25, But hey damn it.. I'm old and I like my teeth

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Thanks for the links and good advice.. people just starting out should not be blowing money on a custom designed gaurd.. a $30 one from shockDoctor or brainpad will protect you just as well..
not true a custom mouth guard is 1000% more protective than any store bought guard, this fact is from the American Academy Of Sports Dentistry. the fit of a custom mouth guard also is superior to a boil and bite. Custom mouth guards from Gladiator start at $50 and re-orders are half price making the price similiar with the best boil and bites.

I hope I have not broken any forum rules, just trying to get out the proper facts and correct pricing.

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not true a custom mouth guard is 1000% more protective than any store bought guard, this fact is from the American Academy Of Sports Dentistry. the fit of a custom mouth guard also is superior to a boil and bite. Custom mouth guards from Gladiator start at $50 and re-orders are half price making the price similiar with the best boil and bites.

I hope I have not broken any forum rules, just trying to get out the proper facts and correct pricing.

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I'm happy to see that someone from that side of the industry is able to represent themselves. I posted my view from this point of view. When first starting out, most practitioners will have a very minimal amount of sparring in many training dojos (even the serious ones). At which time, protection has to be there from incidental contact more than intentional contact. In that case, you're looking at a time span of 12 to 16 weeks on average. Most people who pick up on things but are not able to continue such activities (whether they aren't serious, or otherwise) will usually quit by then. In which case, is it worth the investment.

The other thing to take into account is that someones teeth can continue to move into their late 20's, and you have people starting as soon as their early teens. Is it a wise investment to get a custom mouthgaurd at that time when it is almost certain their teeth will move as they grow older? If they choose to spend the money every 9 to 12 months, and they can do so, fine by me.

I simply want to provide a realistic and practical (read: cheap as hell for the dirt poor) doorway for those who aren't depending on a contact sport for their livelihood. Now, if it was me... If I found the right mouth piece, I probably wouldn't mind spending $50 in cash. I doubt my bite will vary any more into my 30's.

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Wow I found a site with intellegent posters, I understand your point, however with the price point difference of maybe $20 the custom will easily out last the boil and bite 3 or 4 to 1. Imo the incidental contact while rolling can be the worste because you don't expect it. Most mouths become stable at 18. We do not go back beyond half of the second molar to stay away from the soft palate,( the area that causes the gag reflex) so changes after the eruption of the second molars (wisdom teeth) don't effect fit.
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Wow I found a site with intellegent posters, I understand your point, however with the price point difference of maybe $20 the custom will easily out last the boil and bite 3 or 4 to 1. Imo the incidental contact while rolling can be the worste because you don't expect it. Most mouths become stable at 18. We do not go back beyond half of the second molar to stay away from the soft palate,( the area that causes the gag reflex) so changes after the eruption of the second molars (wisdom teeth) don't effect fit.
Oh I completely understand where you're coming from. I've broken 2 molars rolling, and but haven't done much more than split a lip striking. The molars were due to come out anyways, but I could've avoided getting them shattered if I had some sort of mouthgaurd on.

My whole thing is that a lot of the inquisitive posters are still teens who may or may not end up being a dedicated practitioner (life is unpredictable that way). In which case, right off the bat, get a cheapie boil and bite, unless they have some sort of orthodontic appliance (braces or what not) that they have to be conscious of. If they've gotten into it 3,4,6 months down the line and they know they're gonna' be dedicating a lot of time on the mat/in the ring, then I'm all for spending the cash on good equipment.

ON a side note, do you think it would be possible to put a quadruple gold star pattern on a T606 Color Gladiator Pro maouthgaurd? I want something to end up resembling the Phillippine Flage:

How much would that run? Believe me, I am curious.

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t606 57.00 pro guard if your just rolling & sparing w/headgear
82.00 elite for true MMA trainning no head gear
customizations are free/shipping = 10.00
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